I got an email today from Capital Records threatening me about torrenting music. Has anybody in NZ actually been fined for this?
Posted Sep 28, 2015, 7:02 AM UTC
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Stop torrenting. Get Spotify.
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100% this. I really don't get why people continue to steal music when it's so cheap these days.
Both Spotify and Google Play Music are crazy cheap for what they offer.
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Because I love Taylor swift too damn much.
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Tay-tay is on Spotify!
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No she isn't?
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limited data, maybe? not all of us work in an office.
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If you subscribe and pay the small monthly fee for the service then you can save the music onto your phone.
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that's cool. i just wish they'd pay the musicians more.
I still buy vinyl, and there are plenty of podcasts, mixtapes + radio shows out there, and awesome free projects like Run The Jewels (edit: MEOW THE JEWELS OUT NOW ). And if the artists I like come to town, I'll go to their shows. That seems to be the best way to support musicians these days..
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"cheap". Bread and milk isn't even god damn cheap.
I'm sick of everyone saying "Get spotify!"
- I have a 500mb data cap on my mobile phone. PLUS I like to save battery in case, you know. I get fucking stuck in the middle of nowhere. AND I have no SD card (although, I'm working on that) Which leads me to
- I have an iPod CLASSIC so I can listen to music while I'm out. None of this fancy app shit. No wifi on my devices.
I listen to music on spotify on my PC. If I like it, I'll buy the album. If not, I'll torrent a song or two.
Insert quotes from bands who earn most of their money from concerts because they put on a good fucking show and you'd save up or sell your fucking TV for that shit.
Edit: I haven't actually torrented music in AGES. I'm just over this "cheap" thing when I struggle to by bread and milk at the end of the week and so many other people do too.
Edit again: I actually use spotify often. Only at home though. Unless I worked a few extra hours and can afford it, then I'll use it when exercising too. Idk. Data isn't cheap. Mobile battery DOESN'T last that long if you use your phone for multiple things.
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Spark has mobile plans from $19 that include a Spotify subscription among other benefits.
You can use their free WIFI hotspots to download 1GB a day.
You can save your Spotify music to play offline on your mobile.
SD cards are cheap. $8 gets you a 16GB microSD.
A run of the mill Galaxy Ace (or any other) can play music for up to 70 hours.
I don't see what the problem is.
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I don't see what the problem is.
Victim mentality is the problem.
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Sounds like Spotify isn't for you.
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so you dont have to fuck around with there players and ads?
try tell me you don't like being on control of your own music library
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I have no problem with either player, they both do the job which is to play my music. I don't hear any ads because I pay for the service.
I don't get what you mean about being in control of my own music library, I can make playlists easily, and can always find the music I want to listen to. If you mean don't I miss having 1000's of MP3's on my PC, then no I do not. I miss that about as much as I miss having to flip sides on a cassette.
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different strokes then
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Missing artist sadly
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Then buy the album and upload it to Google Play or add it to Spotify
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Fair point
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I'd rather have the MP3s to be fair. Plus I suspect spotify is the main cause behind the rise of mouth breathers listening to bad hip hop on public transport and I would rather distance myself from those people.
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a lot of the time it only sounds like bad hiphop because it's being played on miniature speakers. most of that bullshit 'bitches in the club' stuff only works on a big soundsystem.. the '80s had the right idea, goddamnit. If you're gonna pester people at least do it with some bass.
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That's a lot of assumptions.
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Maybe he prefers FLAC? In which case get Tidal.
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get Tidal.
How does it feel to be the first person ever to say that?
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Feels good. A true pioneer.
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Missing some artists though, that I still have to acquire by other means
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Bad luck. What artist did you pirate?
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Capital or Capitol?
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Lol, howzat.
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from what i remember with the way they monitor piracy they only monitor torrents and nothing else so just direct download your music from any website and your fine. someone confirm if i'm remembering this right.
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Op what band was it out of interest?
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Get a seedbox and download them securely with SFTP/SCP whatever.
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Get a what.cd account. People never caught from private trackers
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peer block allday.
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Obviously not as smart as you aye mate.
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There's definitely a learning curve to Usenet, and additional cost. It can seem pretty arcane to the uninitiated. Stuff's harder to find, though some posters take requests. Used to use it an awful lot back in the day for music and pictures. I started using it when ISPs included a newsserver in your package 20 years ago. Once the binary groups started getting huge, most dropped that and you needed a third party provider (I used Easynews).
I've been tempted by Spotify as well but have legacy devices I want to listen on, and artists receive such a pittance off the system that it's effectively a marketing tool.
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Try not breaking the law next time.
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It's not spam/scam? Apparently the average fine is around $500 (https://www.lawsociety.org.nz/lawtalk/lawtalk-archives/issue-832/infringing-file-sharing-two-years-on). I don't know how/why people don't take measures to avoid getting caught after their first notice. The notice should come from your ISP.
So you know people personally that have gotten fines? or just hearsay.
I don't know anyone personally but the decisions by the tribunal are available at http://www.justice.govt.nz/tribunals/copyright-tribunal/decisions-1 (amounts fined are usually at the bottom of the decision, under orders) and a law-society article is likely to be fairly reliable.
I think the bigger issue here is whether the notice was from his ISP or directly from Capitol Records.
Yea, that's why I asked if it was spam/scam. I was thinking that perhaps the infringement notice ISPs send makes it look more like it comes from the rights holder so they don't get blamed. I don't know how Capitol Records would be able to send one directly since they would most likely need to go through your ISP to get your identity and other info.
It was from my ISP
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