TCnurse•

It's not clear how the child's mother got a gun into the hospital. Banner Health has a policy -- which is posted at entryways -- against carrying firearms and weapons into its facilities, Lozano said.

Umm, i'm no detective, but she probably carried it in through the front door. Unless those signs have now become active, sentient security personnel that screen everyone who comes in the hospital, and removes weapons....

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ladybirdbeetle•

How did the sign not stop her!??

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TCnurse•

It definitely needs to be fired.

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aliceismaliceRN - Oncology•

Maybe this was the sign?

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SUBARU17•

Well, it is in Arizona--gun laws are more lax there. True, the sign is posted at the front; same sign is in front of my workplace too.

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annewithan_eRN, BSN, SICU•

Pretty easy to get a gun into a hospital, just walk in. Firing it and no one hearing? Seems fishy.

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AmetaliaEEN•

That was my very first thought when I got to that part of the article. How did NOBODY hear a gunshot? Especially on a paediatric ward?

We're missing a lot of details here...

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annewithan_eRN, BSN, SICU•

I can hear an iv pump down the hall, I damn sure would hear a gun... You're right somethings missing here.

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a404notfoundRN - Hospice•

How exactly does one fire a gun on a unit and no one hear it?

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wicksaRN - LDRP•

Maybe it had a silencer on it? It still makes a bit of noise though, and like others said, I can hear an IV pump going off from down the hall, so I don't know.

Here is a video of someone shooting a handgun with a silencer indoors (do not recommend!). Might be able to miss it if the door was closed.

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PolishRoulette•

extremely unlikely.

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wicksaRN - LDRP•

Why? I personally know a handful of legal gun owners who own silencers. I honestly don't know much about guns so am I missing something?

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schlingfoFNP-BC•

The average suppressor lowers a shot by about 30 dB.

Average handgun produces around 150dB per shot. With a suppressor, you're still looking at 120dB of sound, which is VERY loud.

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AmetaliaEEN•

Well, even in the video you're still getting quite a bit of noise from the suppressed guns. Given how quiet hospital wards tend to be at night, combined with the general acoustics of hospital wards (the aforementioned being able to hear the IV pump alarm at the other end of the ward), I'm pretty sure you'd still be able to hear someone firing a suppressed handgun. Even if you didn't recognise the sound, you'd still go "wtf?" and go see what made it.

Especially if they used the suppressor that set off the fire alarm. Imagine explaining THAT to the fire department.

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PolishRoulette•

More to do with the age and financial status of the woman in question.

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schlingfoFNP-BC•

They're using sub-sonic rounds. Sub-sonic rounds are specialty rounds that don't produce the normal volume of regular bullets.

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olaoghaire•

Horrifying. Poor kid. Poor staff.

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