Court of Appeal slashes sentence of man jailed for setting fire to pregnant partner
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theage.com.auPosted Jan 10, 2016, 1:22 AM UTC
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theage.com.auWorth reading the actual judgment, particularly the comparative cases which are of particular relevance when imposing sentence.
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Kilic began his rampage by threatening his girlfriend and two others with a samurai sword when she decided to leave the relationship.
After failing to drag her out of a friend's car, Kilic doused her in petrol and set her on fire. The victim, who was 12 weeks' pregnant with their child, spent nine days in intensive care with life-threatening burns.
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Victims of Crime Commissioner Greg Davies said he was disgusted by the appeal court decision and the judges' rationale.
"At a time when the entire country is focused on the violence by men against women, it defies belief that a judge would overrule and castigate a colleague for being unduly affected by a horrific images of a victim's injuries," Mr Davies said.
Also. WTF.
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At a time when the entire country is focused on the violence by men against women
That's exactly why they did it. There are some real piece of shit ivory tower sitting jerkoffs in our judicial system, who really do get off on thinking they know more than the common plebs.
To not slash the sentence? Well.. that'd just be giving into the blood baying mob!
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Like it or not, they actually do know more than the "common plebs" when it comes to applying the law.
As noted in the article, this was the second-highest sentence ever imposed for this offence. Have a look at the sentences imposed for similarly horrific offending in the judgment at paras 33-47.
Many people may well consider those too short as well, but the Court is stuck with them as the guideline.
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That is intellectual snobbery, we're not talking about quantum physics we're talking about Justice. No we shouldn't start forming mobs and storming prisons to lynch people we don't like, but to wilfully ignore the society you're supposed to be overseeing the judicial side of because you "know more" than them is just asking for trouble.
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They can't ignore established law based on the sentiments of the public.
If sentencing practices are inadequate, then Parliament can pass legislation to address it (hopefully something better considered than their failed baseline sentencing regime).
The Court of Appeal can't just do so off its own bat on a case like this.
They applied the law as it is, which is their role.
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No, it's not. The judicial system isn't there to emotionally satisfy you.
Sentences are not supposed to reflect sentiment, but severity.
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To be fair, eleven years for a 22 year old is a long and deterring time.
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It's almost impossible to deter a crime of passion.
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The charge really should have been attempted murder and 15 years didn't sound unrealistic for this sickening attack. Gutless dog.
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They would have failed to prove the charge most likely which is why they didn't bring it.
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So the maximum for the offence of Intentionally Cause Serious a injury is 20 years imprisonment. If 15 years is too much for setting someone alight and causing serious burns to them And killing the Foetus, what must one do to get 20 years?
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Forget men vs women, surely he deserves more than 10 and a bit years FOR SETTING SOMEBODY ON FIRE.
This has nothing to do with domestic violence, really, and everything to do with the fact that he SET SOMEBODY ON FIRE.
I would have thrown away the key tbqfh.
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It does have something to do with domestic violence.
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The offender friendly justice system, it's the future we chose. There was a man who spent 6 months in prison for an assault on an intruder into his own house. The intruder had a knife and the home owner had a bat. They said he used "excessive" force and imprisoned him.
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Source? All I could find was this http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/dec/14/jail-brothers-burglar-cricket-bat
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They certainly used excessive force. You can only hurt someone in self defence.
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'Soft touches' made their bed, now they have to lie in it.
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'The Court of Appeal also queried whether Judge Montgomery had taken into account that Kilic had also suffered extensive burns to his hands and arms because he had attempted to put out the flames after setting his partner on fire.'
HE SUFFERED BURNS AS A RESULT OF HIS OWN ACTIONS YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES.
If anyone wants to complain that violence against women isn't taken seriously ill point them to this.
This woman lost a baby because of this shitbags actions. She has burns to 20% of her body. I don't care if he tried to stop t afterwards who the fuck thinks it's acceptable to buy flammable liquid, toss it on her, tell her she's going to burn and then light her on fire!
Yea, wouldn't really care myself if he got 15 years even if the law sees this as "excessive". And I agree that "He got his hands burnt doing it" is hardly an mitigating factor imo.
That said, the alternative to a fair and independent judiciary is trial by public opinion, social media, shock jocks and tabloids. Imagine that dystopia, a world without the possibility of redemption, of hypocrisy run rampant, with no fair trials, executions of innocents on the wrong end of public opinion, etc, etc... So appreciate it (even if it makes unpopular decisions) .
But he got tried by a judge. Who gave him a fair sentence.
The fact he was burnt isn't the mitigating factor genuine remorse however is.
Stop making this a gender issue. Twice as many men are murdered every year in Australia than women buts it's irrelevant. Weak sentencing is weak sentencing and effects all genders.
Who murders them?
Other men majority of the time.
Whomever does the killing is irrelevant; your victim agenda claims fall short when as a female you only make up 33% of all homicide victims.
Violence against women in relationships is extremely high, most men die from other forms of homicide.
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How do you know they're a woman?
The issue is that we have a violence problem with men. And a lot of people want to ignore it is happening. Men being victims, women being victims doesn't change the fact that majority of it is cause by men.
And violence in the home is worse as your home is meant to be your safe space. Where you go for comfort.