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Syric

How does the Smallsound/Bigsound Mini compare to the Empress Germ Drive?

I am looking closely at the Smallsound/Bigsound Mini. It is often described as "tweedy" and "straddling the border between OD and fuzz". That sounds great to me. I like the two-band EQ. And I really like what the demos showcase of its bias knob, and the great noisy starved sounds you can get. That's a huge selling point. But a frustrating thing is that the demos don't really show what it sounds like on "conventional" settings, and they don't seem to play normal riffs and chords through it either. Based on word of mouth and descriptions on Reddit, TGP, etc., the Mini seems like it should be what I want, but I can't really tell.

Anyway, in my attempt to get a sense of what "tweedy OD/fuzz" is supposed to sound like, I discovered the Empress Germ Drive. It gets described in much the same way as the Mini. Based on such descriptions, and the similar controls (minus the bias knob) it seems like it should sound kind of like the Mini would on conventional settings. And I hope it does, since I rather like how the Germ Drive sounds in the demos. To the point that I'm strongly considering it as well--but I do want that sag control.

My question to Mini owners: when you tame the Mini and play it as a normal non-starved OD, and play normal chords and licks, can it be dialed in to sound kinda like the Germ Drive? If it can get pretty close, then I'm getting a Mini for sure. If not, the search continues.

(I realize the actual closest analog to the Mini is going to be the Fuck. I also like how the Fuck sounds. And the thing I like about the Fuck is similar to the thing I like about the Germ Drive, if that tells you anything about whether I would like the Mini. I would also consider the Fuck but I like the EQ controls on the Mini and Germ Drive better.)

Germ Drive demos for reference: MusicToyzNetwork, JJ Tanis

Posted Jan 14, 2016, 5:35 PM UTC

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i know you are looking for a comparison to the germ drive but i cant give you one.

that being said i had a mini and have a fuck and they are certainly my favorite overdrives ive ever owned. absurd gain range, voiced perfectly to sit in a band mix. sounds fantastic for bass and guitar. ive used it as a high gain fuzz, transparent overdrive, always on tone shaping, crackle fucking, etc. i feel rather confident you will like it and worst case scenario you can always flip it because someone else sure as hell will like it.

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SyricOP•

worst case scenario you can always flip it because someone else sure as hell will like it.

Certainly true.

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stradivari310•

They really aren't apples to apples. The two pedals have totally different circuit toplogies. But painting in broad strokes, the Mini can sorta cop the fuzzy/vintagey OD feel that the Germ Drive has. If you sag the bias slightly and put a lot of bass in the front end (which is how the Mini's bass knob works) it gets kinda close. Beyond that the Mini is more flexible and has a nice range of conventional boost, overdrive, and distortion tones on tap.

But also, take demo videos with a grain of salt. Not everyone is using a tele into a fender combo.

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SyricOP•

But painting in broad strokes, the Mini can sorta cop the fuzzy/vintagey OD feel that the Germ Drive has. If you sag the bias slightly and put a lot of bass in the front end (which is how the Mini's bass knob works) it gets kinda close.

Close is close enough in most cases! That certainly does sound promising; thank you very much.

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stradivari310•

Happy to help. It's one of the most versatile drives I've owned. Lately I've been using as an always-on preamp in my ambient rig.

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Zoolake1•

I don't know if I'm allowed to do this, but I've got a germ drive up for trade on r/letstradepedals if you're interested :)

https://www.reddit.com/r/letstradepedals/comments/402yu8/wttpermanent_empress_germ_drive/

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