[discussion] Who has been the most disappointing player in the recent months?
Posted Jan 26, 2016, 10:49 PM UTC
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Has to be the Ox. The reason why I don't say Theo is because theos actually pitched in with some goals and assists, while playing in the rather unfamiliar role of LW. Also he tracked back and defended quite a bit.
The thing with Ox is that given his perceived talent. I have higher expectations for him than theo. We all know theos limitations. But despite that he is still putting in a decent shift all things considered. Champ I in the other hand seems to be have a mental problem. Like he doesn't trust himself, or constantly tries to force things. He should be doing better.
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Walcott has gotten one goal (against City) and zero assists since he came back from injury.
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He assisted campbell in the FA cuo game
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Walcott also won the penalty against Aston Villa and also beautifully set up the second goal. He gets zero goals/assists for these contributions but he pretty much created those chances to score.
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Ox has 2 goals and 1 assist in the past 12 months.
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I wasn't arguing against it being Ox, just saying that Theo has been dire
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Özil's record on the left was pretty terrible too. They shouldn't play there, and they both were very average.
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I can't remember which game, but he cut the ball back to I think Campbell to score. I think it was Sunderland. And he should've had another when he put the ball on a plate for Giroud against Liverpool. Also how many games has he been back for? 4? 5? I'd say that's a decent return. Not great but decent.
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Right, forgot. So one goal and one assist. Also, he has been back for 11 matches,
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11 really? Wow ok that's a lot more than I thought. I still think he has been better than the Ox though.
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giroud missed a blatant set up from theo against Pool though
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Oxlade-Chamberlain by some distance.
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Walcott easily.
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Ramsey. Few goals, misplaced passes, leaving his cm partners out to dry. He's just not filled in well in cazorla's absence.
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Ox in my mind. I thought he was gonna be amazing and he's not even been decent.
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Ox; if your offensive game isn't working so well, you need to be strong on defense, and he has weaknesses there.
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Walcott or Ox. Really no debate, neither have done much at all, just filling space until Alexis gets back.
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Theo recently has been massively disappointing. However, he performed very well earlier in the season . Ox has really been the one that's been the most disappointing to me so far. Really had the chance to step up and shine due to injuries but Joel took that chance instead.
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Surely posts like these just add to the problem of scapegoating.
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Walcott and to a certain extent, recently anyway, as much as I hate to say it, Koscielny.
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Ox and Theo need to step it up. Show us again why they deserve to be here.
Theo is a bit ahead of Ox but they both need to give us Theo of 12/13 and explosive Ox of 2012.
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Ramsey and Flamini both I think. They had an opportunity to step up after cazorla and Coquelin went down and there was an expectation for them to fill in the hole, and it hasn't happened. Flamini is who he is obviously, but Ramsey's passing has been so inconsistent and just not sharp enough for his ability.
Other than his amazing goal against pool he has not done enough for me to drive the team to the title.
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Walcott.
I cannot understand how frustrating he can be on the pitch by providing very little, then come a big name match, and he's World Class.
No consistency with him.
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Leaving Oxlade aside as he's been downright awful, I have been unimpressed with Ramsey. He doesn't have the passing ability or the technical ability to control the game in the middle. He is too adventurous and constantly leaves Flamini isolated in midfield, he often switches off defensively. I have just not been impressed by him.
The gap between Cazorla and Ramsey in the centre is huge. Watching him play has made me appreciate Cazorla so much more.
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Ramsey has been good since he went to the middle, not sure what you're on about. He doesn't need to perform like he did that season, cause he put up ridiculous numbers. He is doing a good job, just needs a good partner.
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I think Ramsey - Coq midfield partnering would do really well. It would give Rambo the freedom to bomb down the pitch with attacks while Coq watches for the counter attack. Also, their energy levels and skill in passing, tackling, and dribbling could make them an anchor/pivot for holding and regaining possession.
Still think Santi/Ramsey would be optimal only because Santi really grew into the DM role before he got hurt.
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Coquelin has to play if fit.
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I think we will get the chance to see a Coq-Ramsey partnership before Santi comes back. I think it's really up in the air how that will do.
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Nice username
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why?
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I was being sarcastic. Basically, halfoot was a troll that would always fit some sort of Wenger or Giroud hate in every discussion on this sub. Him and the user "Arsenes-Guilt" spearheaded the of anti-Wenger trolls on this sub. Not only did they spew hate everywhere but they also sported flairs such as "Wenger out" or "De Boer in". They were very extreme as well, for example "Arsenes-Guilt" once said something like he wished Wenger would get into a fatal accident (although he later deleted the comment / it was removed by mods). But they all disappeared when we went top of the league.
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I didn't know trolling provided balance, honesty, and rationality.
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Theo or Ramsey
what about ox?
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Hector. Find a match where he played well defensively this season.
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against west brom
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Swansea
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Bayern home leg was a great performance in all fronts.
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I used to slag him off but sides really aren't able to target him like they did at the start
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Theo for me.
Big fan though.
I love me some Theo, which makes it so much more heartbreaking when he doesn't perform.
I've already said this but he has been playing on the left, he's never been good there. He was excellent at the beginning of the season as a striker.
What made him so good seasons past on the right was his ability to beat lb's on the byline or cutting in for a shot. He doesn't have that chance while on the left so his only choice is either slow down and lay it to monreal or cut in. Seems predictable to defenders.
Yea. Now that Alexis is back and he can go back to being a striker and competing with Giroud, we'll see him back to his best.
yh I'm a big fan too and it's a shame. he's still getting in the right positions tough just needs to up his final ball as well as shooting.
I also think he's better on the right as he's very good at instinctively crossing and shooting the ball from there but on the left he has to cut in and pass more which aren't his strong points.
yea, hasn't been performing lately, injuries have taken a huge toll on him
Don't think it's injuries really, just generally struggling for form.