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alpachydermatologist•

I work for the Fed and recently we had our union membership revoked. I am glad too. Even though I work for the government, unions should not be allowed.

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DefinatelyNotDyx•

Would you mind explaining why unions should not be allowed?

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alpachydermatologist•

I talking specifically about public unions, but to answer your question the primary reason public employee unions are a bad idea is because politicians pay them off with taxpayer money. These unions receive billions from taxpayers, who in return contribute millions to the politicians who gave them those billions.

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toby224•

Also, there is no competition in the public sector to keep the unions in check. The reason why private unions are in decline is because of competition. A private business cannot just keep raising their prices or the customer will go somewhere else. In the public sector every single time a contract is up and needs to be renegotiated the union takes a little more and a little more. The gov't just keeps increases taxes to keep up. The public can't stop it.

Also, public unions where illegal in every state until the 1950's. Wisconsin was the first to make them legal.

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billswinthesuperbowl•

I am a union member and work for the government. It is entirely sad, really and pisses me off, but financially it was the smartest thing for me to do. My family has run a small family business for the last 45 years. I wanted to go into business management in college when I graduated high school. I worked in the business at 8 years old either cashing people out etc. My father told me not to go to school for business management unless I planned on moving out of NYS and working for a large corporation. He said by the time I am 40 small businesses will be dead, he will have to work until he is in his 70's (He is 58 right now). He said he wouldn't wish running a business in NYS on his worst enemy and sure as hell wouldn't let his son inherit it. And you know what he is right I make just as much as him as a government employee and will be able to retire at 46 with full benefits and do whatever the hell I want. I only have to put 3% of my funds into retirement for 10 years and I retire with 50% of my pay. I also put money into a deferred comp program which should net me 3400 a month upon retirement upon my regular retirement. I can pretty much come to work everyday and put in the bare minimum and never get fired. I get 32 vacation days, 2 personal days and 13 sick days a year. I cannot remember taking a family vacation as a kid growing up because there was no one to run the store and if shit hit the fan while we were away it meant packing up and going back to town to fix things. Not only that but the last people to get a paycheck when SHTF will be government employees and welfare recipients. What a sad state of affairs to live in.

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PhilosoGuidoConstitutionalist•

What a depressingly candid indictment of the system.

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billswinthesuperbowl•

Yea depressing indeed but glad I realized the American Dream was dead before I tried to pursue it. Now I can live the American "I guess this will have to do"

I mean in the grand scheme of things it is not that bad for me I will make well over 3 million over the course of my lifetime not including raises or how the market does. However I enjoyed the satisfaction of building something and looking at a project and realizing you accomplished or built that. There is nothing like that when working for typical government job. There is no self satisfaction or realization that you made the world a better place.

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toby224•

Sorry to say, but I don't think it will last forever. Big changes are coming to America. What happens when no one will lend money to America? Despite what most people think, that day is coming. And sooner than we know.

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mcotoole•

This percentage will only increase over time as government grows ever larger.

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