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raqyee

Effectively using shotgun on T side?

To be honest I just love the feel and the play style of the sawed-off so I'm just searching for the excuses to use it.

So far, only situations where I found it to be viable are:

  1. I know I can abuse the enemy aggressiveness

  2. watching my team's back if I notice enemies are flanking us from previous rounds

  3. playing it on cobble drop area

In all of those situations it's implied I'm low on money. I did have a fairly decent success while doing this but those situations obviously don't happen often and I'm sure there are plenty more ways to utilize it even better. I imagine it could be a good idea playing apartments on inferno, B on cache or blue on overpass.

I'm MGE if it's any relevant.

Any tip or idea is appreciated.

Posted Jan 30, 2016, 11:45 AM UTC · edited

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NetherR1900•

Shotguns are best at close range, use that too your advantage. Maps like dust 2 you can push in tunnels and wait for pushes or clear cat. Its all about positioning with the shotguns.

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golden_boogie•

Effectively using shotgun on T side?

Short answer: No.

Long answer:

CTs get to decide the place, Ts get to decide the time. If the CTs don't play apts your gun is basically useless. At medium range a glock is literally more useful than a sawed off.

  1. I know I can abuse the enemy aggressiveness
  1. watching my team's back if I notice enemies are flanking us from previous rounds

Both of these can be done better by a rifle or cheaper by a pistol.

  1. playing it on cobble drop area

The only problem is that when you get out of drop, you gun goes from "slightly unviable" to "literally useless".

The only useful T shotgun is the nova. It's relatively cheap, good against unarmored opponents at close range and can be a one shot kill at certain distances if enough pellets hit. I would rather get a MAC10, which is cheaper and more versatile. The only upside to the nova is that if you die and an enemy gets your gun, he'll have a worse gun than if you bought a MAC10.

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nivek_c1670•

ummmm how about the fact that the nova (and all shotguns for that matter) are a 900 dollar kill reward, making them the most profitable guns to get kills with in the game (full 50% more profitable than smgs), that would be a clear advantage over the mac 10....

also the nova has an absolutely absurd range for a shotgun, idk what youre talking about when you say its useless at medium range, it has a decently smaller spread than any other shotgun...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmWs8nuJe6M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mu-wrMAGWg

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golden_boogie•

also the nova has an absolutely absurd range for a shotgun

And compared to everything else it's shit. Ts are not supposed to use shotguns.

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nivek_c1670•

jw disagrees, note how after the end of the round he chooses to use the sawed off again and throw the awp to olof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMhrKvzQd10

look dude just because you personally cant find a way to be viable with a shotgun on T side doesnt mean that its impossible, it just means that its not your niche

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nomoarcookies1950•

Besides using it as a taunt when you are up say 9-0, there are maps that shotguns can come in handy in some positions. Say if your team opens up a bombsite, you can hold an angle knowing that anyone who walks into you crosshair wont come out alive. Going B apts from alt mid on inferno with a saw'd off is good too, I don't do it that much, but since the hallways are so short you can run and gun almost everywhere while inside.

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shotguywithflaregun500•

If you're playing against a team you've noticed is very aggressive I can imagine you taking one or two down with a Nova before picking up an M4. It won't be that useful on larger maps like Dust 2 unless you play your smokes and flashes right. Being aggressive is probably the key, since, well, you can't snipe with shotguns.

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t3hPoundcake818•

Keep in mind that weapons are strongly based on roles and fitting into certain situations. You don't buy a p250 on a buy round because p250's aren't good for setting up a default and getting picks, you'd rather go with a rifle right?

Same idea for shotguns, if you can half-buy, but you notice the other team is aggressive and pushing long or b-tunnels, you might want one person on each side to go for a mag-7 instead of a galil because the close quarters almost guarantees a one-hit kill.

You're using shotguns as they are meant to be used, it just happens that shotguns aren't viable all game long.

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nivek_c1670•

shotgun T side can be very effective in specific scenarios. really good example is youre playing on inferno as the entry fragger for your team. igl calls A through Apps, but you know the CT's have been playing this area very close and aggressively in past rounds. so you grab yourself a sawed off, full armor, 2 flashes, and a molly. pop flash into romeo stairs, and prefire top of stairs, molly over to boiler, flash back hallway and clear dark and balc room for close ct, prefiring if possible. if they were playing this area really aggresively then theres a good chance you will end up prefiring one of them or catching them with a flash, and in an area as tight and close as apps the shotguns are super effective.

thats just one situation off the top of my head i can think of. another is if youre really good with the pop flash from lower tun to ct mid on dust 2 you can do that and run in just after the flash pops and maybe catch the awper out in mid (to give another possible example)

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