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obamia

Metamorphosis - Dispel combo?

Someone told me that if you dispel the magmas, they don't pop up as normal minions. I tried it, and after my opponent's turn they came back as normal minions.

Is this normal? Cause for example if you dispel an egg, it doesn't pop after.

Posted Feb 9, 2016, 12:50 PM UTC

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dopplehaus•

It's pretty clearly a bug in one of two directions.

The summoned unit has text that says "I transform back". IF you silence it, that text goes away, then it transforms back.

So... yeah. The text should either not go away, OR the card shouldn't transform.

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smurfscaledustmancer•

This is because Transform effects are not dispellable.

Metamorphosis works by transform the units into magmas and them re-transforming then back again.

An Egg is not a transform effect: it's a token minion spawned by the Rebirth unit and that will respawn that unit afterwards. So dispelling it prevents the effect.

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Joald•

If I understand that correctly, the magmas have a trigger to transform back at the end of the turn, and dispelling them should remove the trigger

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nosejapones•

There really is no "should" in situations like these. Metamorphosis is unique in how it works, and the Magma don't work the same way as the Eggs. You can think of it in one of two ways:

  1. The Magma revert effect is like the Obelysk Structure; a fundamental property of the minion that can't be dispelled.

  2. It's actually the Metamorphosis card itself that controls the reversion. Dispelling the Magma does nothing because it's the effect of the old Metamorphosis that turns them back.

Now, maybe the devs will change their mind and decide it should work like eggs in the future, but right now it's pretty easy to accept that Magma != Eggs, and they just don't work the same. It's tempting to think they should, because they're somewhat similar and belong to the same faction, but really there's no inherent reason why they should be identical.

I do agree that there's no way to know what will happen until you try it, though.

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ewiggy24•

Are you the guy who meta'd my 2/5 ranged in gauntlet?

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