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solid437

I was right all along!! (Update on lcs weighing packs to pull extra foils.)

First and foremost.....HA! I told you so! So about 2 months ago I made a post about a local store in Denver called game hero's that I had a suspicion of them weighing their packs to get expeditions and other high value foils and giving the rest of it to their customers as prize support. Well I called them out and they admitted it. The owner flat out said that's how they make their money and that he will continue to do it. They now have signs posted saying that unsealed booster boxes have had all individual packs weighed. So my reason for posting this isn't to shove it into the face of all you cock suckers that downvoted me to hell for naming the store. It's actually to figure out if there is any rule wizards has put in place that they are breaking. Do any of you know if there is anything that can be done here?

Posted Feb 11, 2016, 11:31 PM UTC

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ImmortalCorruptor•

So my reason for posting this isn't to shove it into the face of all you cock suckers that downvoted me to hell for naming the store.

Good thing you cleared that up.

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BrianWantsTruth•

I mean, if he's right he's right...

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yodydascholar•

Yup. And also an asshole.

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BrianWantsTruth•

Being right and being an asshole aren't directly related.

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yodydascholar•

This is true.

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cardlackey•

I would take my business elsewhere for sure. That is some shady BS as bad as box mapping.

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Qvdv•

https://wizards.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1236/kw/Report%20Suspicious%20Behavior is the place to report any suspicious behaviour. I'd give that a shot.

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Frommerman•

Generally, calling people cocksuckers is a great way to get downvoted.

Just saying.

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fadetoblack1004•

Well, it's a stretch, but if they sold packs while doing this, and you were under the impression that you could pull an expedition or something but they were essentially eliminating that possibility, that COULD be constituted as fraud by deception, but that is shaky at best.

Just take your business elsewhere, and tell your friends to as well.

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Field_Sweeper•

I would report it to wizards if they have a way to report fraudulent stores they apparently only admitted to it after being caught lol (the way they maker their money haah) RETAIL is how they make their money, not to mention the pawnshop pricing on trade ins etc.

And to save waiting another 10 mins from fuck heads who down vote because they do not want to hear the truth or are too fucking overly sensitive I will reply to ensete, the point of weight is still valid, simply because a foil does weigh enough more, now does that mean the foil will be a common or an expedition no, BUT if you grab 80% or even if the edge over the average pack opener is only a few percent casinos usually only have a house edge of a few percent and look. the slightly better odds, are obv better. plus if they grab all the foils they are guaranteeing you wont get any expeditions since you know, they are foils lol.

Some people are:

  1. too naive and
  2. ignorant to really think that everyone is a freaking angel in the world.

And bigBallenGpr, to have so much love for a store, can only mean you are affiliated in some way with them, owner perhaps. stfu, his opinion they admitted to it and obv the entire community here frowns upon that, how many of those (would be mad people) know what they are doing? and obv they can still play games there (not standard cus all u get is packs) but modern or some other casual game where they are not really making money off them sure, but i would never buy from them, singles you kind of get what you see so i wouldn't be TOO afraid to buy from them as long as the price matched the quality etc. but sealed products like packs never. and for the lack of honor I would simply just go somewhere else, card shops are a dime a dozen.

"Yeah, well, that's just like... your opinion man. " - The dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

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BigBallinGPR•

Lol, not affiliated in any way, just really appreciate the store. If you've spent any amount of time there, you'd agree that their store is great.

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Field_Sweeper•

If I did, I wouldn't anymore. Knowing this.

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fadetoblack1004•

Yeah, they're great, basically ripping customers off... Fuck them.

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IamtheDevil•

Their store is the opposite of great. They ban players from their store for no reason, they offer the lowest amount of trade credit from cards I've shopped around, and now this. I just don't understand why people play there with the myriad great stores Denver has to offer.

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CommiePuddin•

Ok, have a cookie.

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GoldenSandslash15•

Relevant Link

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parasikosis•

That's is some seriously messed up business.

Upvoting because I didn't downvote you before. And I don't suck cock.

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fakejakebrowne•

As someone who has seen two people open Expeditions from draft packs at Game Heroes (from previously opened boxes), they must be TERRIBLE at it.

That or OP is full of it.

Or they both are.

Oh man, now I'm paranoid.

But these guys are cool and I've legit seen people crack EXP's.

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BillyAssManGunn•

OP is a cocksucker who goes to FNM at that shop with shitty brews and goes 0-2 and drops, then proceeds to complain about people using cheap cards.

I honestly doubt any of this is real. Sounds like you had a bad experience at that shop and you're trying to give it a bad name.

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ensete•

Weighing packs does not work. People have gotten lab grade scales and shown that the variability of pack weights is more than enough to make weighing packs for foils pointless.

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solid437OP•

They're doing it consistently so I'm guessing they figured it out.

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nitrofast2000•

I highly doubt the owner would say that

Plus I've got expeditions just home running packs with my roommate buying singles standing at the front desk

So basically you are just an angry player with bad luck

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ensete•

They aren't. Stop making up bad stories

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yodydascholar•

You compared magic players to school shooters on the magic sub and you don't think there's a reason for your downvotes? Lol

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yodydascholar•

Yup, some people are shitty. No reason to stereotype "half" of players or "the younger ones" or "the average player." Also, comparing people playing a game to school shooters is in really, really poor taste.

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threwaton80•

I'm not one of the cock suckers who downvoted you before. But, since you've determined that I'm a cock sucker, I'm downvoting you now. Thanks.

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threwaton80•

Stay classy.

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BigBallinGPR•

Really dude? I mean really. . . This is the best game store in Colorado, let alone one of the best in the entire country. The competition is great, the owners are great, and their prices on singles are top notch. I used to drive from Boulder to Arvada Wednesday nights, Friday nights, and almost every Saturday and Sunday just because this store was so great. Then I moved. Haven't found a store even close to these guys in Oregon. Guardian Games is big, but its the best buy of the industry, and a lot of the others just don't compare.

Before you go bashing their store, why don't you take a moment to realize a few of the more solid things they did in this circumstance. 1) They admitted to doing it, admitted they will continue to do it, and even put signs up so that everyone was in the know. I remember them mentioning the whole weighing thing a while back, but no one cared because they're awesome guys and provide solid prize support in their bigger tournaments like IQ's and Super IQ's.

IDK who you are, but it doesn't sound like your someone who plays there regularly. Why bring their name into this when they've already let their customers know other than to spread the word that they're not a great shop, when in actuality this is just a false statement.

What are you trying to achieve with this? Get them barred from hosting magic events? You're going to have a lot of people pissed off at you for doing so, not including the owners.

EDIT: Bring on the downvotes!

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solid437OP•

If you're gonna cheat your customers out of prizes you are pretty scummy. About as low as it gets.

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Jojoyojimbi•

packs of magic cards are basically lottery tickets, what they're essentially doing is prescratching all of the tickets and only selling you losers, how would you feel about that?

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