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Motionstopman

Bryan Fury (Tekken) vs Venom (Marvel 616)

Info:

Bryan :- Respect Thread and Wikia Post

Venom :- Respect Thread and Wikia Post

Fight Conditions:

  • Random encounter, fight ends in death or incapacitation.

  • No BFR/BFD without good reason.

  • Fight will be In Character

Rounds:

Round 1: Standard Bout

Round 2: Venom and Spider-man vs Bryan and Jack-07

Reminders:

  • Be nice to each other.

  • Use feats to backup your argument; admit when you don't know.

  • No downvoting. Refute or move on.

Posted Mar 1, 2016, 5:22 AM UTC

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8fenristhewolf8•
  1. Venom's got this; he has all the advantages except for skill. He seems stronger and faster than Bryan. Most importantly, I'm not sure that Bryan can hurt Venom, who can easily withstand full force Spider-man punches and more. Finally Venom's got all sorts of versatility to with webs and tendrils to make things difficult for Bryan
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BibiAFterDark•

What would stop Venom from turning into a large wall of goo and completely covering Bryan Fury until he simultaneously suffocates and short circuits?

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kirabii•

Bryan < The Mishimas (on overall fighting abilities, not purely based on durability/strength)

The Mishimas are roughly on comic book peak human levels of strength and speed. Venom should stomp.

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MotionstopmanOP•

The Mishimas are roughly on comic book peak human levels of strength and speed.

I disagree, Heihachi catches bullets with his teeth while calling them a peashooter, Strikes the mid-section of a JACK robot, destroys it and headbutts another one hard enough to send it flying and survives this with no visible damage and is ready for the next iron fist tournament.

Heihachi is the weakest of the 3 while Jin and and Kazuya have stupid stuff like this, this, this and this.

I would say they're slightly above comic peak humans

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kirabii•

I'm unconvinced.

That's a good durability for his teeth but speed-wise it is roughly on the level of other comic peak humans.

It's pretty standard for comic book peak humans send enemies flying. I don't have scans for knocking them away 10 feet in the air like Heihachi did to the Jack, but punching enemies through steel is comparable, I think.

Heihachi being the weakest of the three is debateable, seeing as how he beat Kazuya to win the second Iron Fist tournament, and he also beat Kazuya in the Fourth Iron Fist tournament (but lost to Jin).

I don't believe the aftermath of the Jack explosion was shown so we can't say that Heihachi was unscathed in that one.

Note that I'm just saying Heihachi is more or less on that comic book peak human tier. Who he can or cannot beat is probably up for debate (personally I think he'd 6/10 Captain America and Batman in a pure fist fight).

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ChocolateRage•

I think there is an appreciable difference between dodging bullets which many comic characters do and catching bullets which many do not, let alone catching it specifically in your teeth.

We do see the aftermath of the jack explosion it nearly kills him and he lays in the ground for IIRC weeks before getting up. It's a kind of ridiculous feat but whatever.

I think the way that Jin and Kazuya's punches create shockwaves show they can put out more force than most comic book tier people. Jin and Kazuya do it barely colliding, and when Paul and Jin hit each other's fists it causes a shockwave that tears up the ground around them. An effect you usually only see from super strength characters in comics.

If you scale off of other character's feats as well I think they are definitely superhuman according to comic terms. However it's barely over and the majority of them don't have that many good speed feats.

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kirabii•

Eh, I guess, but it's barely above. Okay let me rethink; I'm gonna do a breakdown for the bullet catching feat: He did two small twitch movements for his head instead of one big dodge like other bullet timers, and catching it can be attributed to him being really accurate/having good timing. I'd say the movement by itself is more or less on peak human tier but the way he bent his head back and then immediately launched it forward (while the bullet is moving towards him!) showed he has much better "stopping speed" (i.e. he is like a car that has much stronger brakes than other peak human cars), plus he is probably going to be a lot more accurate with his strikes. So imo speed-wise he is better, but in a much more complicated way than I originally thought.

Of course, we know Heihachi lives through the explosion, it was more of a counterargument for when Mr. Motionstopman said he had no visible damage.

I like the many shockwaves feats of the Mishimas but it's like, that's the kind of feat where I'd have trouble convincing others why it's better than lifting X tons or why it's better than hurting The Hulk, that's why I'm hesitant to use it.

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