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InfinitePower

I feel like Chuck is being unfairly maligned [](/s"for lying to Jimmy about their mother's dying words")

Overall the "fuck Chuck" sentiment seems to be a retread of what happened with Skylar - an overreaction to an authority-figure character who acts as a foil to the protagonist. A large part of this seems to focus on Chuck not telling Jimmy that his mother's last words were "Jimmy... Jimmy", with the idea that Chuck did this purely out of jealousy; while I think this is some part of it and Chuck is of course an incredibly proud man, I think there's more to it.

Imagine if you were in Jimmy's situation, and had just left the building for a few minutes to get some food while a family member was dying, presuming that there would be no change in her condition on your return. You return, and she has died. What would you prefer to hear about her final moments:

  1. That she died in her sleep, peacefully and without event

or 2) That, in her last moments, she regained consciousness, called out to you - twice - and you weren't there to be with her

The first scenario is sad because you couldn't be with her in her last moments. The second is torturous. Just imagine the guilt. And imagine being in Chuck's situation and having to decide whether to tell a truth that could haunt someone for years, or tell a white lie that allows your brother to sleep well at night.

Chuck is a fascinatingly complex character, and his pride will be his downfall. The Breaking Bad universe is governed by the ideas behind Shakespearean tragedy - any flaw will lead to your undoing if you allow it to rule you. But to say that he doesn't love his brother - or, at least, that in that moment he was only thinking of himself - is to do the writers a severe disservice.

Posted Apr 21, 2016, 12:32 PM UTC

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CuddlePirate420•

The first scenario is sad because you couldn't be with her in her last moments. The second is torturous. Just imagine the guilt. And imagine being in Chuck's situation and having to decide whether to tell a truth that could haunt someone for years, or tell a white lie that allows your brother to sleep well at night.

I agree with both options being possible, but I can't help but pick jealousy as Chuck's motivation. Fuck Chuck.

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chuckiebarlet•

We've seen Chuck's selfishness on display enough for me to decide that he wasn't protecting Jimmy as in scenario 2.

Rather than protecting Jimmy, he resents Jimmy for not being there when their mother's last words were calling out for him, it was literally her last dying wish, and Jimmy wasn't there. Chuck sees it as Jimmy inadvertently fucking over their parents one last time. To another degree I think Chuck is also blaming himself, because he was right, if he had tried a bit harder to keep Jimmy there, her last wish wouldn't have gone unfulfilled.

I think it falls in line with every other interaction between Chuck and Jimmy we've seen so far, Chuck is always right from a technical standpoint, whether or not he is wrong from a moral standpoint. Its what makes a good lawyer, and also what makes Chuck such an interesting character. but fuck that guy

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Dr__Nick•

I think you're being very charitable to Chuck. I think he was extremely pissed his mother wanted Jimmy there and not him.

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Tischlampe•

but fuck that guy

amen!

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TrevorSlattery•

r/FuckChuck

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ChowMayne•

Chuck is technically correct. The best kind of correct.

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FineFlowingTableSalt•

Yup, it's jealousy, pride, and sadness for not being acknowledged by his mother. All perfectly reasonable emotions in this context I feel, don't hate on him for that!

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CuddlePirate420•

None of that is Jimmy's fault. If Chuck's motivation was that Jimmy is scum, then fine. But we know that isn't the case.

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NingNongNangNinja•

For me, it's not a reaction (or overreaction) to "an authority-figure character who acts as a foil to the protagonist.". What annoys me most about Chuck is that he is exactly the same as Jimmy, willing to screw people over for personal gain, even your own brother but he thinks he's better than Jimmy just because he does it on the other side of the law. At least Jimmy knows and accepts who he is.

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Lexjude•

Yes. I've been trying to articulate this the past few weeks, but you did it more eloquently than I did. They are both scummy. Jimmy just has charisma.

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shragae•

And Jimmy does do it to help people...Kim and even those annoying old people. Chuck is only about himself, a narcissist.

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OnionKnightOnTheSun•

Exactly this. Their brotherhood goes beyond blood ties.

My thoughts about Chuck by the end of the episode were just as you said, that they're the same.

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Applay•

Chuck is just blind by hate.

He's proud for doing everything "right" in life and he despises Jimmy for doing what he considers wrong.

Everyone loves Jimmy, because he's a guy that really CARES and do everything possible to make sure everyone is fine. You see it by how he takes care of Chuck and how he treats the elders.

Chuck doesn't see it and he finds it unfair that Jimmy, while doing everything wrong, still gets "rewarded".

The moment where his mother calls for Jimmy, you can see how selfish Chuck is. He's sad that his mother is dying, then she wakes up and calls for Jimmy. This gets him so angry he totally shuts down and doesn't even care that his mother just died.

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itsaboyffxiv•

Overall the "fuck Chuck" sentiment seems to be a retread of what happened with Skylar - an overreaction to an authority-figure character who acts as a foil to the protagonist.

Absolutely. The writing in this show is so rich, and people are purposely dumbing it down and reading Chuck to be one-dimensional . There's always a few motivations at play for what basically any character in the show does, but when it comes to Chuck? So much of the fanbase takes the most deprecating view and ignores everything else. It's kinda sad.

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threequincy•

skylar was a mom watching her husband and the father of her children bring a violent, criminal element into their lives.

chuck is a petty man that cares about nobody but himself. jimmie had his troubles in his youth, but was doing his darndest to make a better life for himself. regardless of their conflicts, saul/jimmie still cares for his brother and wants the best for him. chuck only cares about himself. he can't be happy for jimmie's successes because he sees them as slights on his own success. how can his brother with a criminal record do well in life, when he did everything right and was now practically an invalid? chuck has sought to undermine saul every step of the way - he is even willing to send him to prison, where he probably feels his own brother belongs.

the scene in the season finale, when chuck wakes up after his trance after the MRI scan, tells you everything. the first thing he did was to ask jimmy for water. when it came to his needs, he was all manners. then once he was better he went back to fucking over jimmie.

Skylar might have been neurotic, but she ws trying to protect her family. Chuck is trying to protect his wounded pride. chuck is one of the most despicable characters in breakig bad or better call saul. his profession as a lawyer and mild manneredness make it hard to see, but he is in fact a real piece of shit

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CrystalFissure•

chuck is a petty man that cares about nobody but himself.

Seriously. This cannot be understated. I cannot accept that he did this to help "shield" Jimmy. Just seconds before he criticised Jimmy for the party incident.

Chuck has always done everything for his own benefit.

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Dr__Nick•

Nah. Jimmy never went straight. He bust his ass to become a scammy conman lawyer. If he had really flown straight, maybe Chuck eventually comes around. Why should Jimmy get to join a big time law firm just for passing the bar? So he can embarrass Chuck with his antics? Jimmy wanted the rewards without any indication he could really do the work.

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Tischlampe•

I agree with you, except, from Chucks face it is clear that he was disappointed that his mom called for jimmy and not chuck. He did not think of protecting jimmy. he just did not want him to know because he was jealous. nothing else.

And I do not really agree with you, that jimmy would have felt tortured. It depends on how Chuck would tell it to him. And letting him know, that his mothers last words were for him, could make him give a "sad happiness". He couldn't have done anything for her anyway and getting something to eat isn't a bad thing to do in such a situation. She was in this state for 3 days already and probably could have been in that state for another 3 days or even more. The have to eat at somepoint. And jimmy asking chuck "when was the last time you ate something" indicates, that they probably skipped a few meals.

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Khaotix3k•

I agree with the jealousy thing. I feel like they touched on it in the flashback where Jimmy came over for dinner. Jimmy has a natural likability/charisma that Chuck wasn't "gifted" with.

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i think there's really more reason to hate chuck. Not that I'm in the fuck chuck camp, but when you look at BB through the lens of reality, rather than "this is a TV show and i want to see what happens next", skylar didn't ask for any of this shit. Yeah she gave walt a shitty handjob while ebaying, which is a dick thing to do, but she was just a suburban housewife and suddenly she has to deal with her husband having cancer, disappearing all the time and ultimately turning out to be some sort of criminal prodigy

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PM_ME_MEADOW_RAINES•

I think it's sad how overblown the Skyler hate is because while I obviously think she's shown to be a flawed wife I never really got the FUCK SKYLER SHE'S A BITCH feeling... really ever. I mean, the Ted thing with the money was pretty bad, but I got where she was coming from, and her life was getting pretty horribly screwed.

I also feel pretty empathetic towards Chuck... but not about anything he does w/ Jimmy. McKean is a great actor, the scene when he's on the gourney in the hospital and he's like begging them not to do tests or whatever because of his "condition" I teared up a little. Like, yeah, he needs it done, and it's all psychosomatic, but he's suffering so much. Idk. I don't think he's meant to be seen as a bad person, just pretty narcissistic.

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MrSceintist•

Hey, Successful criminal prodigy

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doesn't the word prodigy kinda imply that

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mrsdavidsilva•

Just a reminder that 'while eBaying' should really be 'while checking to see if she sold anything on eBay because creditors are constantly calling the house because they're broke'

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[deleted]•

alright, you can still put the ebay auctions on hold while giving your husband a hand job on his birthday though, that's not gonna be the straw that breaks the camels back

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mrsdavidsilva•

not gonna analyze their crappy sex life. just clarifying that she's not online shopping; she's trying to earn money.

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sarcastic-barista•

reasons i hate chuck:

  1. i feel his jealousy led him to lie about his mothers last words.

  2. his jealousy of other people liking Jimmy more than him leads him to stunt jimmies career.

  3. i feel like his excuse to jimmy when he came clean about HHM and jimmies future there was lame. it was pathetic. he could have allowed Jimmie to make it to junior partner, at least. low amounts of power, low amounts of chances to "fuck up" as he saw it. he wanted to keep jimmy in his place where he thought he belonged.

  4. his pride is incredibly frustrating. where other lawyers simply deal (for a short time) with jimmy or ignore him, Chuck actively works against him. he goes out of his way to hold him down, in anyway he can.

  5. his coming into work to retain Mesa Verde can be argued that he was simply protecting his firm. i don't see that. i see a man that went out of his way, left his comfort zone (literally),suffered through electrical fields just to ensure that Jimmies love interest wouldn't get a career boosting client. he could have allowed Howard to use his method of arguing his firm over hers. he could have given Howard specific instructions, or even set the meeting at a later time and send people home to avoid his condition. he could have gone a lot of different ways, but he submitted himself to severe discomfort to ensure he fucked over jimmy indirectly.

  6. when he took in his brother, his goal was to help him better himself. when jimmy took that challenge, went to school, worked hard pass the bar, get his law degree, become a better man than "slippin' jimmy", Chuck didnt like it. he hated that jimmy was becoming the child that his parents always knew he had the potential to be. so he sabotaged him.

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MrSceintist•

i see a man that went out of his way, left his comfort zone (literally),suffered through electrical fields just to ensure that Jimmies love interest wouldn't get a career boosting client. he could have allowed Howard to use his method of arguing his firm over hers. he could have given Howard specific instructions, or even set the meeting at a later time and send people home to avoid his condition. he could have gone a lot of different ways, but he submitted himself to severe discomfort to ensure he fucked over jimmy indirectly.

Yeah she brought that client it and Chuch and the other partner shat on her over and over - she earned it / brought it in. Chuck and the other partner had no idea at all , or any hope of landing it without her moxie

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HeraldHS•

Whilst I agree with you, I doubt Kim would have brought them in without the initial appeal of a big firm like HHM.

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MrSceintist•

good point - but she IS a go getter

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DrScientology•

The writers say that it was a hateful act in this interview.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/better-call-saul-season-2-episode-10-finale-interview-vince-gilligan-peter-gould-gus-fring-1201756672/

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coniferous1•

In situations of life and death you tell the truth. Always.

While if I was in Jimmy's position I would feel very torn up - I would still want to know.

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st_griffith•

Fuck Chuck and anyone who sympathises with him.

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InfinitePowerOP•

Why?

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PrincessLink•

Because he didn't do it to "protect" Jimmy's feelings... He did it because he's a jealous old asshole

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CrystalFissure•

Yeah. I hate to be dismissive, but anyone that thought that scene was all about Chuck protecting Jimmy, they've got the show wrong. All of those teasers show how jealous and annoyed that Jimmy is more liked and remembered despite his "issues". Chuck literally only cares about himself at the end of the day.

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WalteryGrave•

Chuck is out to destroy and guilt Jimmy. If he could have rubbed their mother's last words in his face, he would have. "She wanted you, Jimmy, but you just had to go get a sandwich, didn't you?" Trust me, if Chuck thought her last words would hurt Jimmy, he'd have told him.

He only kept them from Jimmy because he was jealous.

There's more to Fuck Chuck than that, though. Let's not forget how he stole Mesa Verde from Kim just to spite Jimmy, and how now he plans to get Jimmy disbarred. All this while Jimmy is goes above and beyond to care for Chuck.

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throwawayscientist2•

Am I wrong or did Chuck have them remove his mother's body before Jimmy could get back? Is it just normal practice to take the body down to the morgue ASAP or could Chuck have asked them to leave her until Jimmy got back to say goodbye?

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123celestekent321•

Certainly telling Jimmy what their mother's last words were would not serve to help the situation, it would serve to place greater guilt in Jimmy's mind. So Chuck did a good one for Jimmy by not giving that truthful report.

There are many things that we just dont know about this relationship between Jimmy and chuck. There is really no way that Chuck should have even suggested that Jimmy come into the legal profession, we just dont know what went on in Jimmy's mind on that choice, in any case it was a flawed decision. There are so many other career paths that Jimmy could succeed at which dont fail due to Jimmy's character flaws. In any case I find the f__k Chuck group needs to move onto something more constructive, He is doing his best under stressful conditions.

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Riverboat_Gambler•

Chuck is worse than Skyler but the McGill brothers are as bad as each other, so in that sense the constant glorification of a protagonist, whil at the same time lambasting a more moral supporting character is the same in BCS as it is in BB. Jimmy is an entitled and immoral scam artist, while Chuck is a prideful and resentful weirdo.

Jimmy acts like he's entitled to do whatever he wants because he got a bottom-tier law degree. He thinks that somehow it entitles him to a job at a top firm at HHM, and even when he gets a top job at Davies & Main he treats his employer with nothing but disrespect because he can't pull his stunts freely like some fucking cowboy. I mean, the show is based around him being a literal scam artist, a con man - he should be in prison.

It's laughable that this sub thinks he's trying to go straight and that Chuck holds him back - why didn't he stay at Davis & Main then? Why the scamming people at the bar with Kim, dragging her into his compulsive scamming? Why did he pull that stunt with the Kettlemans? Why did he literally commit a felony out of a false sense of entitlement to Kim for a client who HHM (and Chuck) had every right to try to keep, and who chose HHM out of their own free will? An enormous sense of entitlement and a compulsive dishonesty, that's why.

Jimmy is a liability to everyone arounds him, and Chuck is completely correct about him, both in the present and in the future. The sycophancy on this subreddit blows the Walter White lovefest out of the water. It has almost jumped the shark now that the subreddit hates Chuck for taping a confession made by Jimmy on how he ratfucked him - how dare you, Chuck.

And how dare he have a mental illness, the bastard, he should just snap out of it, doesn't he realize the things he experience as completely real are not based in facts and logic, he should just get over it like all those other mental illnesses where that is possible.

And while I'm alienating the subreddit - the show is well on it's way to become a snoozefest, and the finale was boring.

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Mastrius•

Opinions, opinions, something, something...

You're entitled to how you feel, but one could argue that his brother holding him back and not letting him have a chance at a job at HHM, and not showing that he really cared about him is what led him further down the path he's currently on. I can't say for sure that Jimmy wouldn't have eventually done what he's doing anyway, but his brother was a huge reason he's doing what he's doing.

People seem to forget that he went from being a piece of shit scammer in jail for potential sex charges to going to college at a late age, passing the bar, and becoming a goddamn lawyer. He changed and did right because he wanted to impress his brother. That was years of being a good, helpful, normal member of society. Why does no one ever bring up this part of Jimmy?

It's not fair to only discuss what's going on at the moment. If his brother had been there for him and cheered him on, and at least gave him a freaking chance, he could have continued down that path to success. But no. Even when Jimmy was trying to do good, Chuck refused to believe or see it. That's what makes chuck such a fucking douche.

It isn't that he treats Jimmy like shit right now. Because at this point they both deserve each other. It's that Jimmy made a gigantic lifestyle change, went to college, passed an amazingly hard exam, became a goddamn lawyer, and was still thwarted by his brother at every turn.

That's what makes chuck despicable. He fucked his brother while his brother was trying so hard. Not that he's fucking him while he's being an asshole.

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wimpymist•

Also he put in years of work starting in a mail room building all the way up to a respectable enough lawyer he was offered a job at hhm that he brother made they not hire him. Far from bottom line law degree as the guy above you stated. Plus I'd wager it's impossible for some average Joe to become a lawyer just to fuck off. He put in loads of work

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Mastrius•

The bar exam is no joke. Putting in the effort to actually pass that means that he's extremely smart and knowledgeable in his field. It takes most lawyers a few tries to pass that thing. And those are considered good lawyers.

People can like whatever characters they want. I enjoy that this show brings out this kind of discussion. I just hate how everyone that likes chuck says things like, "people are idiots and I can't believe you like who you like. It pisses me off and you all must be childish idiots."

I don't think I've seen many Chuck lovers that haven't been extremely rude about their love of Chuck. I feel like liking Chuck makes you a bit of a Chuck yourself.

I understand that Jimmy has done some wrong, but to attack viewers of the show for who they like and calling them idiots that are liking someone just because he's the main character is aggravating. There's more to it than everyone just liking him. BUT THAT'S ALSO THE POINT OF THE SHOW. Jimmy gets you to like him regardless of all of his faults.

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IThrowPower•

I feel like liking Chuck makes you a bit of a Chuck yourself.

My name is ASAC Schrader and you can go Chuck yourself.

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Flimflamdoorslam•

I feel like liking Chuck makes you a bit of a Chuck yourself.

I feel like maybe Chuck got over his condition and he posts on here under various accounts.

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mrsdavidsilva•

Exactly, and just adding that he spent ~10 years in the mailroom and earned praise (from Howard), love (from Kim), loyalty (from Ernie) and was working his ass off to get through law school. Everyone but Chuck was able to see him as he was at the time, which was as a hardworking decent guy. And when Chuck wants to get back at him, he brings up his side job of making fake IDs in high school as a way to judge him all these years later.

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Dr__Nick•

Nah, still very charitable to Jimmy. "No one ever said he was lazy." Just because Jimmy bust his ass to become a lawyer doesn't mean he had to become a bent conman lawyer. Who knows, with years of straight and true work by Jimmy, maybe Chuck eventually comes around to Jimmy joining HHM for real.

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Mastrius•

He wasn't charitable beyond getting him out of prison. Otherwise he liked knowing he was better than Jimmy. You can't just dismiss everything I said. College takes at least 4 years. Probably took him longer considering he was working the entire time and he did it in his spare time.

We're talking around I'd say probably 8 or so years of being a changed productive member of society. That's not enough to be proud of your brother and try to give him a chance? I understand where Chuck is coming from at times but he should have at least given him a chance.

People that like Chuck just refuse to look at any of the good he's done. I don't get why. It's almost like...Chuck himself?

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CrystalFissure•

And what about Jimmy being charitable? Chuck is mentally ill and Jimmy has done nothing but support him. He's shielded him from the real world basically. Got him food, supplies etc.

Jimmy has done plenty for Chuck and even did in the finale. He could have said: "yep, bake him away toys!" and Chuck would have been committed.

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Dr__Nick•

I meant you were too charitable to Jimmy.

Jimmy wasn't flying straight. He put in all that work to become a swindly lawyer. Look at the Kettlemans, look at the skateboard racket. Jimmy wanted to do things his way, not the right way.

The only thing you can criticize Chuck for is going behind Jimmy's back and deceiving him to use him. If Chuck just told him straight up that he needed to be honest to at least redeem himself a little in Chuck's mind, it'd be hard to blame Chuck for much and there probably wouldn't be much show.

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Has_No_Gimmick•

Jimmy is a terrible person who goes on to do some truly terrible things. Chuck is right about him on every count (except when he presumes Jimmy loathes him personally). What makes Jimmy so remarkable then is that, despite his personal failures, it's hard not to like him on some level. He is the consummate conman. His charm disarms your better judgment.

What you're seeing when people deflect, handwave, and minimize Jimmy's transgressions is that he's pulling a con not only on the other characters, but the audience. Which is the point of the series, right? It's insidious that way. It gets people to root for the "bad guy" the same way Breaking Bad did.

But I would say that Jimmy does have some moral compass, some sense of compassion and fairness, even if he is blinded by entitlement and the thrill of breaking rules. We see he has genuine brotherly love and that he cared about the senior citizens defrauded at Sand Piper. Jimmy is awfully misguided, frustratingly selfish in many ways, and fatally prone to rule-breaking, but he is very human all the same. Which is what makes his inevitable march toward perdition so tragic. He might have been better and done better, but he is his own undoing.

And I would absolutely disagree that the show is a snoozefest. I think it's richer than nearly anything else on TV right now, and in time will surpass Breaking Bad. It follows different beats but it's not even "slower" than the parent series. Things move just as swiftly, it's just the decisions and repurcussions playing out are less life-and-death.

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gabcsi99•

Different strokes, and all that. I loved the finale and I don't think the Chuck to Skyler comparison makes any sense at all.

I do think you're a little overly upset about a TV show, though.

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Jobr321•

And I'm a bit sick of people defending him and making shitty excuses for that guy

He is a great character no doubt (much better than Skylar ever was) but c'mon he didn't tell Jimmy about their mother's last words because he was jealous as fuck.

Its not really ambigious at all. He was only thinking of himself as he always does.

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OnionKnightOnTheSun•

I think you make a very fair point, but in my understanding of the show's design, the flashback/prologue is meant to convey a message or a detail which will be central to that episode's plot (or a further episode down the line, but since this was the season finale, it would be the former). So, in my mind, the idea behind their mother's death scene is to show that Chuck, while generally being on the moral high ground throughout their lives, is still able to stoop, as it were, to Jimmy's level. They're a competitive siblingdom, for various complex reasons.

It's clear that Jimmy's got a personality of taking the path of least resistance etc. and that this gets him in trouble, while Chuck is a straight shooter who believes in hard work and earning one's dues. So their competitiveness goes deeper than just being brothers, it's about their worldviews, their archetypes. They'll go to great lengths to maintain themselves as they are in my brief description above. For Chuck, justice > family, especially if the family member at hand is of questionable repute regarding justice (which is most definitely the case for Jimmy). Chuck sees Jimmy walking out on their mother's deathbedroom in her last moments as some last ditch effort to get away from any responsibilities he has (this is alluded to when Jimmy offers Chuck the tea several times after bringing him back home from the hospital), which is morally criminal, and qua criminal, is deserving of punishment. This is replicated by the setup to have Jimmy confess out of guilt for the possible trauma he's put Chuck through with the whole Mesa Verde mess.

So while it's true that there is still brotherly love guiding their actions (Jimmy shoots himself in the foot to get Chuck to the hospital after his episode, and in the other foot when he confesses, etc.), which also encompasses Chuck's decision to spare Jimmy the guilt of being absent as his mother called out for him, that last action also has the aforementioned points of personality mixed in.

At least, this is how I see it. Thoughts?

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fleurdautomne•

in my understanding of the show's design, the flashback/prologue is meant to convey a message or a detail which will be central to that episode's plot

I'm glad you pointed that out because some people in this sub don't seem to realize this.

But it's for that reason that I don't agree that Chuck was trying to spare Jimmy's feelings in lying about their mom's last words. The episode was about Chuck's hatred for Jimmy, so the flashback was likely intended to support that. The episode was about one-sided brotherly love on Jimmy's part, not mutual brotherly love.

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RileyWWarrick•

I had the same reaction during the opening. I thought Chuck was trying to spare Jimmy the guilt he would feel for not being there when his mother asked for him. I'm sure there is more to it in their complex relationship, at that moment Chuck was just said and wanting to be a compassionate brother.

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CraftyTiger•

I think that Chuck's motivation was probably jealousy; but if Chuck was really that vicious, that mean, he would have told Jimmy that their Mother's last words before she died was her calling out your name while you were busy getting a sandwich. That would have been a shiv to the heart.

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Tom-ocil•

I disagree. Maybe in the immediate short term, yeah, you'd keep that close to the vest. But once the grieving process had stabilized, I would think that knowing your mother's last thoughts and words were about you would be something to cherish. Chuck is holding out on the info out of a combination of spite and jealousy.

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WheelingsAndDealings•

acts as a foil

heh

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Agent990•

I don't think Chuck neglected to tell Jimmy to spare Jimmy's feelings. If that had been the motivation, then yes, it would be been a nice thing to leave that out.

That isn't why he did it.

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DebAbq•

"Jimmy, she knew I was here and so she called out for you. I tried to explain that you had just stepped out to get me something to eat. She smiled then... that was it..." But Chuck was too self absorbed to realize that would have been a nice thing to say.

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