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maplebar

eating scrambled hen periods

Small Victories

Just watched a Youtube video yesterday where a guy points out to his audience that eggs are nothing but hen periods. We go to the store and buy a pack of 12 hen periods but we'd all likely find it disturbing if offered to eat the period of any other animal.

I can't believe I ever desired eggs for breakfast. Ew, even just saying that right now is disturbing!

The power that reframing arguments can have on your perception is profound. Please keep doing the work you guys are doing!

Posted Jun 22, 2016, 3:17 PM UTC

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ShootTheMoon•

I don't want to ruin you, but you should know... When you are eating fruits, you are eating plant ovaries. Juicy, ripe, ovaries...

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maplebarOP•

I like hemp cum in my salad.

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xgardianvegan newbie•

I like cum just as much as the next guy but..... what?

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naeshelletransitioning to veganism•

I feel like I'm the weird vegan out but reframing food like that had never bothered me? Like yeah, eggs are hen periods & honey is bee vomit & cheese is pus, but that doesn't stop it from tasting good.

Obviously I don't indulge in that stuff now but lol it never really bothered me.

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BostonCorgi•

Right? And really eggs aren't periods (which indicates the shedding of the endometrial lining), they are ova. And cheese isn't really pus any more than vegan yogurt or kumbucha or any other fermented item. I still don't eat them, but this argument has never bothered me. Lots of stuff is gross. Gross does not always equal wrong.

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skier69vegan sXe•

the "pus" part isn't referring to the fact that cheese is fermented, but to the fact that milk coming from machine-milked cows actually has a significant amount of pus due to infections in the udder. The allowed amount of pus is regulated by each country's somatic cell count (more info here-skip to paragraph #9, here, and here).

Even if eggs technically aren't bird periods, they are still gross in my opinion, considering they come out the same hole as the bird's feces and urine.

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BostonCorgi•

By that logic oral sex could also be considered gross. Like I said, I just don't think "it's gross" is very good argument.

ETA: there are tons of factually true, really great arguments for veganism that don't rely on an appeal to "grossness". I much prefer those because they are far harder for anyone to dismiss or argue against.

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skier69vegan sXe•

First of all... there's nothing inherently wrong with thinking oral sex is gross. Nothing wrong with not wanting to drink pus or eat things that come out of butts, either.

if you're trying to convince someone to go vegan, then yeah it is necessary to present logical, fact-based information. However, somatic cell count and other "gross" information are also facts and I think it's equally necessary for people to know about them. First of all, not all people will go vegan overnight because they heard chicks are ground alive (they can reason this away too... "millions of animals die every day so what's the difference?" or "I only eat eggs from my uncle's hairdresser's best friend's backyard hens" or simply "I don't care about animals.") If people are grossed out by the fact that milk has pus or eggs come out the same hole as feces and urine, it will likely cause them to at least reduce their consumption and probably also question their consumption habits - which is undeniably a good thing. People go vegan or reduce their animal product consumption for a multitude of reasons. Animal rights arguments will only work for a number of people. The rest can become interested in veganism starting with environmental, health, or human rights reasons.

Of course, if you have the chance to sit down for a good hour and talk ethics with someone receptive and considering going vegan, then yeah the "gross" argument alone will not suffice. However, as eggs and dairy are still marketed and widely viewed as natural/pure/healthy/nutrient rich/whole foods, I think it's essential to let people know the truth and I also think people deserve to know the truth.

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Ralltirvegan newbie•

Sex is really gross when you're fini...I mean when you think about it.

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AsDevilsRun•

Yeah, before I turned vegan I just laughed at those descriptions. A rose by any other name...I don't know if it's an ineffective way of changing the perception, but I know it didn't work on me.

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cratanoia•

101 reasons to go vegan?

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maplebarOP•

Yup!

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Ariyas108vegan 20+ years•

The power that reframing arguments can have on your perception is profound.

In fact that reframing is completely necessary. There is very little chance that a person will go vegan when they don't associate "meat" with "dead animal".

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Narhen•

lol

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