If we are going TRUE 0RB strategy, and not drafting ANY tailbacks until the deeper rounds?
Who should we be targeting?
hint:
#I am going ALL IN on Matthew Jones (GATOR CHOMP).
Love his UNLIMITED upside, albeit, he does have some issues with securing the mail.
Posted Jul 20, 2016, 5:47 PM UTC
I'm targeting Duke Johnson and Gio Bernard to be my RBs.
Gio Bernard, Duke Johnson, Jeremy Langford, Charles Sims, TJ Yeldon, Deandre Washington, CJ Prosise, Javorius Allen, Shaun Draughn
I don't think Langfords gonna be available late. Could see his adp being 3-4th rounds
I only listed him because his ADP has been precipitously falling the last few months. Right now he is late 5th round pick in 12 team ppr drafts per FantasyPros ADP (58th pick overall). https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ppr-cheatsheets.php
He may settle in as a 6th round pick a month from now when people draft the way his ADP has been trending. I would love to start out WRx5 and then nab Langford in the 6th round.
Is there any particular reason for that? I feel like after they dealt forte his stock was really high
There are a lot of people writing that Howard will have a bigger role, but i just don't see it. Langford can run the offense and has the hands to actually play their entire RB role, not just a plodder like Howard is.
I don't mind, they keep driving Langford's value down and we can benefit.
People seem to think this will be a committee situation with Kadeem Carey and Jordan Howard - two limited and mediocre football players.
He's going in the 7th round or later right now. I went from thinking there was no chance I'm taking him this year at a 3rd round adp to being thrilled at having him as my 3rd rb. Thanks Mike Clay.
Fantasy football Calculator has his ADP at 4.07 standard 4.12 PPR
People are all over the place on Langford.. some sites have him late third, some have him late seventh (aggregate puts him in the 4th/5th). Personally, in a league with smart people I wouldn't expect him to slip to the seventh - any draft plan banking on getting him that late is extremely risky.
Wow. That seems like an absolute no brainier to take him that late.
Frank Gore, Ryan Matthews, Demarco Murray maybe try and get Melvin Gordon and Woodhead, Ameer Abduallah and this might be a little early but Latavius Murray
Most of the responses so far aren't true Zero RB responses. These guys are 6th, 5th, and even 4th round talents. Zero RB means your first 5 picks, at least, are WRs (at least that's how I understand it). Guys like Chris Ivory, TJ Yeldon, Charles Sims - these are Zero RB guys.
My zero RB guys. League drafts crazy early http://i.imgur.com/xcNGsxC.jpg
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I use the calculator to mock and I see Duke and Woody go much earlier. The others work though, but I can't say I'd be too enamored with most.
That's not true. I've seen every player listed in this thread (except Dion Lewis) be available at least once in the 6th round or later in drafts.
Anyone just leaving their RB slot open, much like people do (successfully) in fantasy baseball, but not rostering a catcher?
That won't work in fantasy football.
That's idiotic.
In fantasy baseball people can do it because a lot of catchers suck at hitting and will contribute very little to R/H/HR/RBI/SB categories but will drag down your AVG/OBP/SLUG categories. So they are not only not helping you, they are hurting you by having them in there. So the theory is that it is better to use the roster spot to add an extra player, typically a pitcher since bench hitters (much like bench players in FF) don't help you nearly as much.
In fantasy football everything goes into one category: total points and there isn't a running back in the league who is going to score more negative points than positive and hurt your team. If you avoid the RB position altogether in favor of adding other players to your bench who aren't going to play... that's not going to work out well.
Try it and report back at the end of the season.
Looking forward to it, thank you so much for your invaluable pheedback.
Gio, Langford, Latavius, Dion, Stewart, Matthews, Jones
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You will score biggest in the waiver wire. But for draft i would take anyone starting
How late can we get Rashad Jennings? (assuming he is the starting tailback for the New York Football Giants this upcoming NFL season)
It's looking like round 7 or 8 is where you have to target him based on mocks so far. Although his ADP could rise when people see that he should be the clear lead back through camp/pre-season. I would be pretty happy to land a guy in line for 15-20 carries a game in the 8th round.
Jennings would be a great pick up late.
Yeah, I mean he looked like a real studdy ball carrier once they finally decided to fucking #FEED him the rock at the end of the season.
I have him projected to be a top 20 tailbacker by the time all is said and done on the upcoming National Football League season.
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I caution people to not count on winning the waiver every week - in reality you have 1 in 10 chance or less
true it also depends how your waivers are set up.
I'm really hoping to snag Woodhead but will almost assuredly not be able to get him outside the 5th rd.
5th round is already crazy good value. Like him in the 5th, love him in the 6th. If you miss on him, Gio is going a round later typically and Im projecting him as a stud.
Yeah, I actually kinda think someone will reach for him as early as the 3rd in our league. I'd feel better getting him in the 4th but doubt he'll be there.
Third is quite a bit early for me. I think there are RBs you really must take before him. He isn't a feature back, and Gordon could very well develop into woodies role. That said, I think he is WORTH a 4th in value if you are high on RBs, and I the fact that he is going as late as the 6th in many leagues means he is a good target.
3rd round is insane. I cannot conceive drafting a non-starter over the likes of C.J. Anderson, Keenan Allen, and Matt Forte
This was a much easier answer a few weeks ago. There was a lot of good value / high carry backs in rounds 3-6. Now that is less of a case. Ajayi has Foster now, Langford and Rawls are in supposed committees.
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It's actually just Matt Jones.
Sorry, I try to be as proper and professional when posting within the Reddit forum community.
Went Julio, green, and Hilton last year followed by Ingram, gio, and Martin. Just find a good combination of volume and pass catchers. Stewart, duke Johnson, yeldon, and sims are my targets.
Gio Bernard, Melvin Gordon, Charles Sims, Theo Riddick
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Gio in the 6th; TJ Yeldon in the 7th; Charles Simms in the 8th; Rashad Jennings in the 9th; Tevin Coleman in the 10th; CJ Procise or Buck Allen in the 11th; James Starks in the 12; Chris Thompson in the 13.
Ryan Matthews DeMarco Murray is gone in Philadelphia. Darren Sproles is 33. All Kenjon Barner can do is run fast. The Eagles only spent a 5th round pick on an RB. It seems like new head coach Doug Pederson might actually like Ryan Matthews. It is understandable why as Matthews was extremely efficient in the limited touches he received last year. He ranked 4th in yards per carry and had Football Outsiders 3rd highest DVOA. What’s even better for Matthews is that Pederson likes to feature one back when he shows he can do it all like Matthews has shown. Just look at Jamaal Charles who was elite in fantasy for almost every year that Pederson was there barring his injury last year. Even with two backups in Kansas City, Pederson was able to propel West to a top 10 RB performance from week 7 on and Ware to a top 15 RB performance from week 11 on. Think of what he could do with Ryan Matthews getting most of the work behind PFFs 12th ranked oline who should improve with an offseason together. The injuries scare people a bit and they should but when u go 0 rb you're drafting a bunch rbs later and hoping that just some of them hit. Really feel like Matthews could hit this year.
I'm picking as many handcuffs who already have standalone value, especially in PPR. Guys like Sims and Gio Bernard. They'll get plenty of touches every game where if you have to play them they'll do fine, but if the starter on that team goes down will be an instand #1
Arian Foster Child.
#And his half of a half of leg.
Anyone else have a Woody,
#For Woodhead this year?
I'll preface this by saying that 0RB is foolish and I'd urge 0RB sympathizers to reconsider.
But, supposing I've taken 3WRs, TE and QB in the first 5 rounds (Could have an amazing core of Rodgers/Green/Gronk/Tate/Maclin), here's the guys I'd target to salvage my season:
Round 6: Gore/Gordon/Abdullah - These guys are all safe bets to average 15+ touches a game in offenses that can score. It's a great foundation to stabilize your RB corps
Round 7/8/9: Woodhead, Jennings, DeAngelo, Karlos Williams are all pretty attractive options to try and fill in a RB2 week-to-week.
Rounds 10/11/12: You're wise to handcuff the guys you do own, since some security will be valuable. Lottery tickets I like here are Dixon, CJ2K, McKinnon
Putting this together is terrifying. Seems like if you don't get a reliable RB early, you'll be so desperate later on that your draft is ruined
I would stay away, for now...
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I think you can definitely get burned going completely 0RB early, but I do think it's viable to take one very early and then avoid the position until much later.
I've been experimenting taking a RB in the 1st (usually Peterson, Gurley, or Charles) and then completely avoiding the position for a mix of WR/QB/TE until round 7 or 8 and hoping to land somebody like Gore, Jennings, Yeldon, Bernard, or Abdullah there as an RB2.
I just have a hard time trusting any mid-round RB, because they're usually being drafted there because of perceived volume in spite of a lack of talent. There always seems to be plenty of busts taken at RB in rounds 3-6 or so in the draft while there are still plenty of proven players available at QB or WR.
But if I could land something like Peterson, Jeffery, Cooks, Rodgers, Sanders, Kelce, and Gore through the 1st 7 rounds I would be thrilled with my starting lineup to start the year. RB2 may be an issue throughout the year, but I feel confident enough that I can find a serviceable player to fill that one spot, without paying a bunch of capital for it during the draft.
I guess in the end this isn't even a "1RB" strategy or anything. It's just avoiding mid-round RBs that I believe are overvalued based on their risk in comparison to the other players available around them.
It really depends on the scoring system.
If you play ppr zero rb is the only way to go and you grab Woodhead who catches 5 balls a game.
Although I will say going into a draft with any set plan is stupid it's about extracting value. If leveon bell is there at 10 because 9 WRs went you take him even if you planned on zero rb.
PPR 0RB would work really well, but then you can't miss your guys
I'm on the fence about it, but if you're taking Woodhead, Gio, Matt Jones, Ridick a round early to be careful you're kinda reversing the extra value you got in the early rounds by skipping over RBs
It works great though if people are following standard rankings and ADP like the sites present it as in their draft apps though
You don't even mention the Cincy backfield?
I have been taking Gio in every mock I can where he's going
Gio can be very productive, but he isn't guaranteed the touches that you can expect out of fellow round 6ers that I mentioned. If I'm drafting a guy to be my RB1, I need reliable volume
Gio got 15 touches 4 times last year
Gore got that 14 times
Gordon 8 times
Abdullah managed 4 such games despite battling Joique Bell who is now gone
Good point, he definitely has a lower floor, but I'd argue a higher ceiling because of the new OC coming in could change that distribution.
With Sanu/Jones out of town, there are a ton of extra targets to go around. Bernard could really tear it up, it's just less reliable than other RBs. Lower floor, higher ceiling sounds right