The Poor Scientists At The CSIRO Will Brief One Nation's Malcolm Roberts On Climate Change
junkee.com/poor-scientists-csiro-will-brief-o...Posted Sep 18, 2016, 1:17 PM UTC
Posted Sep 18, 2016, 1:17 PM UTC
Why would they even try and persuade him??? He isn't interested in evidence... He has faith and that can't be shaken...
As they say:
You cannot reason people out of a position that they did not reason themselves into
It's such a shame we're paying people like this 6 figures.
Funding. Instead of charging by the hour they're charging by the number of times they hear 'empirical evidence'.
Why bother. He's not going to change his mind no matter how much "empirical evidence" he's shown. He'll claim it's been corrupted by NASA or some other BS.
Wouldn't it be a really amazing stunt if he suddenly announced that in the face of all the evidence and in-depth explanation that, being a person who bases his opinions on evidence, he's changed his mind and then goes on to become a champion of environmental and social issues and the first Greens Prime Minister?
Yeah but then we'd be asking questions about what kind of Bond-villain type shit the CSIRO are actually up to if they've managed to invent something powerful enough to convince him.
Why do you think the CSIRO invested in WiFi technology. That's not just for communication. That's mind control tech that they've convinced the industry to deploy into every home in the country. Wake up sheeple!
I for one welcome our CSIRO overlords.
What does he believe all these agencies and scientist gain from 'corrupting' data? Doesn't it make more sense that large mining, oil, energy companies are making data up? They stand to make A LOT more than people working for BOM, for example.
Something something conspiracy #FollowTheMoney
Man would if it all is a conspiracy?! What if we transition to sustainable, near carbon neutral, renewable energy sources all for nothing- because we were tricked by these nutters at BOM and NASA!
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Don't sell the CSIRO short on this. They have scientists and other professionals with teenage children.
Now you're selling teenagers short.
Can confirm: Am teenager, understand that the earth is heating up
How much are we paying these people? Whatever it is, it's not enough for this.
You mean the severance package?
It's never been a less exciting time to work for the CSIRO.
It's hard to pick when the options are losing your job from budget cuts, or trying to teach an absolute moron who refuses to listen.
Whatever. Here's a spreadsheet showing pause in global temperatures.
Ahh this brings me back...
If you think this guy is crazy please remember that denying climate change is literally written into One Nation's policies. They want an inquiry into why BOM and NASA have adjusted the data. They also want the government to compensate sufferers of wind turbine syndrome. Seriously go and read their policy pages, I can't decide if they're hilarious or terrifying. I'm also pretty confident that the vast, vast majority of people who voted for these clowns don't actually know what they've really voted for.
I'm also pretty confident that the vast, vast majority of people who voted for these clowns don't actually know what they've really voted for.
I truly wish that were the case as then it at least it can be put down to lazy ignorance. But I have a strong suspicion that most people who voted for them are wilfully ignorant, and fully agree with their policies.
Can someone please interview Roberts about his personal brand of tin-foil crazy. It's one thing let him bag scientists and the sane world at large, but it may do more damage overall to him to really press him into the nitty gritty of this UN take over - if he wants 'evidence' form us - let him produce his (I expect a shit ton of youtube videos with heavy orchestration and clips of Pol Pot in his dossier) edit: words
Yeah, I want to see all his "empirical evidence" that it's a NASA-led conspiracy.
Indeed - lets press him on this, why the hell does he get off having such a position without some hard questions? People may say it will indulge him, I say let him pull out the whiteboard and get down to the core of the nut.
Taking away all their funding was bad enough, but this is just fucking insulting.
There are at least seven battles for CSIRO to help achieve evidence based policy making. He has many pre conceived conclusions, like he doesn’t believe in the change of climate (and therefore rejects everything even if true), nor human causes, nor that the consequences are negative, and even if he believed in those he would probably still reject the policy consequences, and has shown that he is not actually interested in evidence in his own arguments despite demanding it and then ignoring it from others, and he has spent years being fed misinformation by other people who he has wedded himself to, and for him to backflip would be a massive defeat. It is a psychological hot mess. Mind in a bubble.
In reality, the climate has been changing and even if some data had been ‘corrupted’ on paper, one need merely ‘look out the window’ and see the large scale long term changes that have shifted the land, water and seasonal environments that we have been living through.
Then there is dealing with the belief that somehow human activities don’t affect climate.
Then there is dealing with the belief that it is for the best anyway.
And the there is somehow convincing him to “switch sides” or at least abstain from the professional and political opinions he has staked his career on.
So, using rationality in the face of irrationality is unlikely to succeed in its own. They really need other techniques too, and overcome the fact that he has already decided not to accept the overall link between current human activity with adverse changes. Obviously there is always a problem that parliamentarians are irrational, so most of them set a bad example and he is unlikely to rise above that.
He's a bloody nutter who thinks spelling your name a certain way makes you the king of the world. None of this is going to convince him.
Oh boy.
Most redditors would agree this is a pointless exercise in the obvious but I'd go further and say this further's Roberts agenda by providing him with oxygen. Regardless of what the CSIRO say in their meeting, Roberts will come out of this exercise and announce that he's further convinced of the veracity of his position by the CSIRO's inability to link CO2 blah blah blah lack of empirical evidence blah blah....
Roberts is delusional and believes himself to be an underdogs champion and scientifically gifted among a sea of ignorance and corruption. I'm guessing from the look on Hanson's face during Roberts sycophantic opening speech, even she's questioning his mental health. Nevertheless his histrionics are taking attention and time away from probably the most important issue mankind has ever faced.
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I would be fascinated to hear the briefing, his responses and questions.
Something something Chemical Ali something...
I would pay to see that meeting.
He didn't reach his position via facts and logic so he won't be swayed using them either.
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I just hope whomever is tasked with this waste of time, energy and money wheels in 60 or so trolleys of printed pages of verified and peer reviewed papers, never makes eye contact, and goes back to their desk without saying a fucking word.
You don't entertain this level of idiocy with debate - It's like playing chess with a pigeon
Is there any chance of replacing Roberts with this pigeon?
VOTE #1 PIGEON!
Hatoful Senator
Whew
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It would be less of a pecker.
Maybe a parrot? Could teach it a couple of extra phrases as well as empirical evidence
Something like this?
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