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I'm so annoyed right now (quitters)

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I was on a 3 game losing streak (had lost about 100 points), decided to take a one hour break to calm down (had dropped out of the 2000s so it really hurt).

I come back, it's Gibralter attack, decide to try out Zarya (normally use Rein but was using him when I kept losing and was frustrated with teammates zigging when I was zagging and ignoring group up).

I played the game of my life on attack (19-0, gold in everything but healing and damage which was silver). Someone leaves 'oh it must be on the enemy team because we stomped them (capped with like 2 minutes left)'. Nup our teammate.

They still end up with a slower time than us on their first attempt (had like 15 seconds left so we nearly won there). They get to go twice in a row.

Nobody can kill the Mercy (our comp was Zarya, Rein, Lucio, Reaper and Junkrat, why Junkrat? no idea) so it's near impossible to actually kill anything at a distance and the Mercy is keeping them all alive. So I switch off to Soldier 76. We can't quite get it as far as they got it with their second push (they were running total cheese on defence with Bastion and Torb which was super effective in slowing us down).

I finish up 35-10 (29-7 as Zarya), 21 objective kills, 3:02 on the objective, 19k damage.

I lost over 40 points.

I think I'm done with the game for a bit. It just isn't fun. I get that they think 'streaks' are the best way to fix your SR. But an incident like this where you play really well, have a quitter on your team and get so heavily penalised is just total bullshit. It would take me over 2 games to probably get that SR back and at this point I don't know that I can be bothered. The whole streak thing drives me insane.

Posted Sep 25, 2016, 3:39 AM UTC

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DentateGyros•

Quitters are the worst, and so is the win/loss disparity in points. Losing a single match might drop you 40 or more points, but winning seems to only give you around 15-20. I know there's probably some weird math going on in the background, but intuitively, it doesn't feel good at all.

That said, for season one and part of this season I felt anxious about my skill rating, but I've now come to terms with the fact that it's a fairly meaningless number. I was avoiding Comp and playing just Quicklkay to preserve that almighty number, but I've begun to realize that in a game of all things I shouldn't be weighted down by an arbitrary rank. I play games to have fun, and obsessing over the fluctuations in ranking was making my experience the complete opposite of fun.

I know this might not be everyone's mindset since there is value in improving yourself, but I think everyone should consider taking a step back sometimes and remembering why we play Overwatch- to have fun! Don't let anything take that away from you

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koonzi•

I rarely see quitters at the higher ranks. Sucks dude, but just play to get better, forget your rank.

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Philosorunner•

So quitters are the worst. But two things may help:

  1. if you have good games, or even if you get a quitter but some others stay to the bitter end and are decent, go into social and prefer them. Do this a bunch and you'll actually start grouping with them more often, and be less likely to have a quitter in there.

  2. you'll still get them, and it'll tank your rating sometimes, and this bothered the hell out of me. So what I did was to make my goal to get the golden weapon. That way, losses are irrelevant; sure you aren't closer to your goal, but neither are you losing points toward it. By reorienting my goal I've had a lot more fun, in large part by shrugging off the losses since they don't really matter.

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Jcbarona23•

My golden rule is to not play comp for the day after losing 2 times. Sometimes it's the third match because of quitters

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cmgirty•

I think you need an extremely strong leaver penalty but if someone on your team leaves you shouldn't lose rank. No matter how well you play, you lose rank if your team loses, but 6 vs 4 really isn't an appropriate view of your skill OR the other teams skill. I dropped 40 points and our team had 2 leavers. I stayed til the end cause I ain't no stinking quitter but still.

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Gazamataza•

Exact same happened to me yesterday, man. Defending Numbani, we had that shit on lock-down. Myself as Roadhog, a solid Zarya with us and a Zen keeping us going alongside a Mei who knew her shit, a Symmetra backing us up and a Hanzo doing what Hanzo's do.

Defended the payload without them scoring even a single point. Our team was solid; they knew their shit, while the enemy team just trickled onto us.

Game ends, next round. The little leaver-alert pops up. Great, I think, An even easier win for us. Check to see who left; nope - its one of ours. We struggle onwards, definitely giving them a run for their money - but we just aren't getting in. I switch from Lucio to Zen in hopes of doing a little more damage to their tanks and that's when I notice another teammate has left.

We could have won that game. The team was solid. Why the first guy left; I have no idea. The second one though? I mean we were playing our cards right. We still could have made it. People are dumb. My friends are all on platinum and it's games like these that are the reason I'm on gold.

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Mrdirtyvegas•

Best thing to do is find a group of 6.

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Rona1012•

That's dicey.. Unless your 6 players are on point you run the risk of a much more coordinated group. 4 or 5 is best to que with IMO.

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ambivilant•

People love junkrat on console. Every fucking game I play regardless of situation there's a junkrat on my team. I suspect it's because people are so shit at the game all they can do is spam grenades all over hoping for lucky kills.

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DeputyDomeshot•

Na it's because the gold damage medal accounts for shit like hitting rhinehardts shield. Noob junk rats think they are contributing with damage medals when a hefty portion of it is being negated.

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timemachine_GO•

We need a separate stat. Damage to shields or something.

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DeputyDomeshot•

Yea I agree, damage should be taking away health.

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GNS3XI•

There have been server connection issues these past few days (PS4). I know for sure because the majority of quits that happen are when my team has been dominating and we have someone randomly leaving, if they're lucky they can rejoin in time but we end up losing anyway. This has happened to me like 5+ times and I've been suspended twice and lost 100+ SR. I've lost so many exp. points because I've gotten disconnected at the later part of matches.

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QuomOP•

I mean it might have been that, I don't know how long it lets you rejoin for but he quit in between rounds, then they full capped with 15 seconds left, then got it to just after the first checkpoint and we had about 2 minutes left to try and match it.

The match went on forever. It must have gone on for another 15 minutes at least after he left.

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timemachine_GO•

Lost 250 total. Both from me and others being disconnected.

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MissUVER•

A few days ago I was playing on Volskaya Industries, defense.
The enemy team managed to stomp us hard on Point A and took it in just under one minute, but afterwards they were having trouble taking Point B from us.
Time went on, push after push, until the enemy team only had 2 minutes left to take the point. I started thinking that we could actually do this, until I saw that dreaded x player has left the game on the left side of the screen.

I thought at that moment it was all over and that we were going to lose, but that ugly red bar didn't appear across the screen.
Confused, I quickly checked the team comp and realized that the leaver was on the enemy team.
He left because he was frustrated his team couldn't take the point from us.

After that it was just a 6 vs 5 and their pushes came on slower, and slower, until the time ended and it was time for us to attack.
When we were about to attack, another player from the enemy team left, so it was now a 6 vs 4.

We won that game like a afternoon stroll, we just basically just walked from Point A to Point B.

I felt that the enemy team could have won that match, they were very coordinated and I was sure as hell they could of held point A longer than we had. That one leaver on their team made them lose the game, and it was upsetting really. I should of felt happy we won but it felt like a dirty victory.
I think the leaver penalty should be more severe because of these situations and in my eyes I see that the one leaver in the enemy team made 5 other people lose a match.

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