It's been posted a few different places, but I figured it's worth a thread here as well. Vantus runes do not work on mythic bosses. The buff reads "This rune is powerless against mythic level bosses."
I figure this makes them just about useless given how easy the current tier of content is.
RIP inscription
Source: some mythic strimmer
Posted Sep 29, 2016, 4:58 PM UTC
I mean heroic is still the level of content many guilds are at. The clear rates on Ursoc on heroic are abysmal atm of any of those stat log sites are to believed.
Forget heroic my guild can barely do it on normal lol. But we don't enforce specs or gear level. Our fire mage has an ilvl 800 belt.
Don't worry, we are 7/7HC and we have an arcane mage that does damage than me and the other tank, kek.
You accidentally a word?
Blizz should just take inscription out of the game already and give people with it an option for a max level profession of their choosing. Inscriptions original purpose is 99% gone and they are struggling to find a new niche for it.
I think they failed with more than just inscription in this expansion. I have max LW...
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According to this tweet https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/781655838712881152 this limitation will be lifted in the future
Cenarius runes are currently sitting at about 9k on my realm. We will see what happens over the next few weeks with the market.
Who the fuck is Vantus? Some doppelganger from Kingdom Hearts?
Thank you
One of the developers said the runes will eventually work on mythic bosses, but they are disabling this feature for now so people don't roll through mythics by stacking runes
Seems like a weak excuse. 1000 versatility isn't game breaking by any stretch of the imagination and, unless I am misunderstanding part of their mechanics, that's all you get.
1000 vers is roughly 2.5% to 3.5% to healing and damage and half that for damage reduction. Stacked across a raid gives deceptively increased survivability to the entire raid group.
If everyone have it, then it will be a great increase in dps/healing. Not gamebreaking by any means but still a good boost.
I'm in a pretty casual, 2-day guild and we've considered using Vantus runes on certain bosses. As we progress through heroics (we're 1/7H), we plan to use runes for the boss we're working on and get a bit of a boost.
TL:DR - you don't have to be a mythic guild to want to use these.
https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/781655838712881152
This too shall pass /sarcasm
Just because the world first 7/7 M happened so quickly does not mean this is "easy" for a majority of people stepping into these raids. The market for these runes was never top world guilds, they can kill those bosses without any help at all. MANY people haven't even cleared heroic. My guild got 7/7 H last night and got a few pulls on Nyth. The general feeling is that mythic Nyth is easier than Heroic Cenarius. Even people who are pushing mythic will probably clear heroic first for AP every week. If the price is decent, I imagine many guilds would throw on a rune for Cenarius. Making farm easier and faster is definitely not useless, and many casual guilds will still be progressing through Heroic for while.
UPDATE Just posted on mmo-champ that they will be usable now.
bought 4000 dreamleaf expecting vantus runes to sell this week. #RIPInscription
may still be able to salvage some profits with DMF cards with the fair coming back next week
You haven't needed the faire to make trinkets since before WoD. You just right click a finished deck.
You do need the Faire to get the high rank recipes though.
If you think the content is easy, why do you even need vantus runes?
On a side note, mythic being cleared by top world guilds in a day or two, doesn't mean the content is easy, it means that they came prepared, or even more prepared, from alpha, beta, to live.
You can not compare your average player to a hardcore player.
Cheers
It's just a matter of progress per gold spent. Guilds that are going to struggle against this content on normal or heroic are already ignoring a comical amount of improvements they could make to their raid at ludicrously less cost than vantus runes. Gems, enchants, cheap consumables (even cheap food or draenic pots for example).
There's no such thing as a guild that is so casual that they can't down heroic Xavius but also somehow hardcore enough to invest in vantus runes. It's just not a market.
Just my 2c of course
there are many guilds that cant clear hc at all, for any reason.
and out of whole vantus rune market, i've not seen many of them selling, mostly because guilds either dont know about them, or are making their own
also taking into account the top guild....that got the world first...still took 2 full hours to kill the last boss if I heard correctly. For it to take even that level of elite that long is not easy in my book
and they also prepared for months in advance from alpha/beta.
i count it as a well organised, greatly dedicated group of players, and hats off to them
I wouldn't count them out just yet. There are enough non-HC raiding guilds out there that always have struggles with Heroic Raiding that I think there will still be a decent market for them. Just likely not all bosses in a raid. For instance, Cenarius and Xavius primarily. Not really the other ones.
Decent, sure. But the people struggling to clear Heroic bosses are likely the same people that aren't going to spend more than the crafting cost on them.
With the current flask prices(and the fact that they still sell well and are required by most hc progression guilds) I can definitely see vantus runes being bought, at least for cenarius.
The thing is though, this raid is tuned so loosely that if your guild isn't killing an encounter you probably have some much more cost-effective fixes to make than outfitting your raid with vantus runes. It's likely your players aren't gemmed/enchanted, not using food or flasks, or have straight up the wrong specs or artifact paths. Fix those problems and you'll get plenty more damage output than what a vantus rune can offer at way less raid-wide cost.
I just can't imagine a raid being so close to downing the encounter and the only changes they could make being add vantus runes. Not in heroic or normal anyway.
I know there's a fair bit of variation in the effectiveness of each artifact path and gold trait, but is there even a "wrong" path? As long as you go for the gold traits and use em, if you're doing everything else right, it seemed to be like you'd be fairly close regardless.
Have definitely seen some garbage talents though, objectively speaking.
Some gold talents are straight up hot garbage at times, there is such a thing as fucking it up, but the path of least resistance should be aimed for by everyone, not just the 1%
It's more significant with some classes than others, but as long as there is a talent tree in an MMO, there will be a correct path and an incorrect path. When we're talking about the benefit of a 3% damage item, we're firmly in the territory of right or wrong artifact path.
Not saying I don't agree. But I am desperately trying to find a reason to not drop Inscription...only because I don't want to level up anything new.
And Vantus Runes is literally the only reason I kept it before Legion