In state disability care for 17 years, Centrelink still told Andrew to prove he deserved pension
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theage.com.auPosted Oct 14, 2016, 8:17 AM UTC
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theage.com.auHe should buy a property and negatively gear it. That's the only morally acceptable way to go about getting welfare according to the Libs.
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This sort of thing happens all of the time. I know someone caring for a non-verbal guy with Autism and Intellectual Disability who doesn't like to wait. If he gets too cranky he starts throwing this and biting people.
The carer got a similar letter, called in and said "Are you sure you want me to bring him?", They said "Yes" so he did...
He no longer has to go in for interviews
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That's pretty fucked that it took him going in and freaking out for them to confirm that he does indeed still have a severe disability.
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On the bright side, the second time he got the letter they remembered and ticked the box without him coming in.
It's an automated system and the workers have no delegation to decide this stuff. For some reason they can't automate exemptions, which is what I don't get.
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It's what happens when you train a society that sneers at the "entitlement" of the impoverished.
Distrust and bad faith.
Could also be those few instances where the system was being genuinely defrauded.
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I know someone who was getting treatment for her MI, they had her on anti psychotics because of aggression, they demanded she come in, treated her like shit, she threw a computer at them and she no longer was required to go into the office.
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What? Did the department think he 'got better' or something.
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They're pretty much reviewing everyone under a certain age, it was introduced by the Gillard gov't in 2012, like you know young people are just whingers and faking their disabilities
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Wasnt it tony who made the bill not gillard?.
Anyone who got DSP since 2007( ALP wins govt) till 2012(ALP lose power) is under review. What so no one got DSP under howard?
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Same thing happened to my mother a few years ago, she's been legally blind with deteriorating sight on top of that since the age of 2... GG Centre CUNTS.
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How long will it take for ACA to do a segment on an episode like this?
But on Thursday, the mother-of-four suddenly received a call from Centrelink saying no further action would be required, citing a letter from Andrew's gastroenterologist as the reason behind the decision.
That was generous of them.
"What's the basis of these kind of nonsensical reviews, and how many reviews are being similarly conducted?"
The basis is quite obviously the government's current crackdown on disability support recipients. That's where the fault lies squarely.
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I wonder how much it is costing the taxpayer to do these 'reviews'?
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And whether a comprehensive cost-effectiveness report of these reviews will ever be publicly disclosed?
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They must get bonuses and career promotions for destroying peoples lives.
Its amazing how they have turned the "pension" into a handout and an charity entitlement from government for millions of Australians who paid very high taxes for their retirement pre the super years. These idiots dont get it that there was no super for most Australians. It really shows how cruel, uncaring and what a bunch of assholes governments and their departments have become. Its their role to declare war on Australian taxpayers who pay their luxurious salaries that nobody else gets in the real world.
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That's a rather narrow view. Nobody was prevented from saving for their own future needs.
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yes they were. Inflation.
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Would you like to expand on that? I counter your argument 'inflation' with the words 'investment returns'.
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LOLOLOLS factory workers investing,, good one. I hope we get a lot of inflation again, so you can really enjoy your savings.
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This is not a personal attack, the Gillard-Rudd government introduced in about 2012 reviews for every under (I think it was) 40 (maybe 30) on the DSP, it's a giant pain in the arse and was pretty much pointless. I had my review last year - it's taking them years to do these reviews, they also do random reviews from time to time.
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It was 2013,and it was tonys govt not gillards. i just looked for it under ALP bills lodged there is no mention of it.
And it's anyone under 35.
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Yep. Not only that but anyone under 35, on the DSP, and assessed as being 8hrs or more capable has to attend these "Transition to work" which includes work for the dole, job training, education and so on. See website
My workable hours are considered zero, however there was a possibility at one point I may have been assessed higher and I applied for (and was granted) special consideration from attending the "transition to work" requirements because I've got fucky cancer.
That said I kind of wonder how job interviews would go.
- So where do you see yourself in 5 years?
- Oh, dead.
- You're not our ideal employee. We like one with more of a .... pulse.
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yeah same deal with my son. every 3-6 month they have a new meeting. So is he able to work more hours. Well no we have told you he cant do more than 3-7 hours a week. The 3 diffrent doctors have told you he should not even be working. I have told you it's killing him to work but needs to money as half his meds for managment arent PBS.
Centrelink assesor Ohh.....So are you sure he can't work more Hours.....Looks dumbly
What annoys me most is the 3-7 hours or so he works he reports. They then don't have to pay him 170 bucks of his pension as,which is more than they are saving with the assesments anyway yet they need to make them work more. You are literally making more money wit hthe current sitiation than you would otherwise. It's just retarded. Meanwhile we have companys like sanitarium that pay no tax. People on 80k getting yet another tax cut. 50 billion in subs. But nah lets save 147 Million by attacking the disabled
The assesment table is fucked as hell too. Literally have denied a bloke who had his arms missing. Like yeah he has a LOT of career options. I also read that they have denied some blind people (80 percent impaired) as well,as they have been assesd as being able to work
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The assesment table is fucked as hell too.
Yep yep. Terminal cancer can rack up 15 points at some cases. Terminal cancer. 15 points.
Well Mr Smith we can you're currently dying, but we can also see that you're probably still able to work for some amount of time, so fuck off and get a job.
What's that? You were a shitty politician who lost your seat in the last election? Here's $60,000 a year for life. Carry on.
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Sensible investing can deal with your inflation issue.
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Just because someone's disabled, doesn't mean they deserve free money.
The title of the article is mismatched to its contents; being legally entitled to something is different from deserving it.
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Why don't the deserve it?
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Why do they deserve it? That word deserve is a strong word to use.
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You used it, implying they don't so I was just wondering why not?
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Personally, I equate deserve with 'earn', not necessarily through manual labor or any kind of 'job' though - you can earn a smile by being nice to someone. What did this disabled guy actually do to deserve all the taxpayer money he's getting?
Note, this is not an argument against being legally entitled to it, which he clearly is.
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I never said this particular individual didn't deserve it - the article gives no evidence one way or the other - it only speaks of his legal entitlement to it.
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The 30-year-old cannot speak, has autism, Tourette syndrome, bipolar disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, epilepsy, and needs a stomach tube to help him feed.
this man was prevented by his lifelong disability from taking care of himself, he deserves our help.
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What did he do (rather than be) to deserve our help? No-one seems to be able to answer that.
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The 30-year-old cannot speak, has autism, Tourette syndrome, bipolar disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, epilepsy, and needs a stomach tube to help him feed.
this man deserves to be cared for. Even if he has a terrible personality and is unworthy
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this man deserves to be cared for.
Why?
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The whole system is set up with this sort of thing, I know a family that have to constantly get referrals to prove that their son still has down syndrome... Cause, you know, you grow out of that as you get older...
Lol i deal with this with my son who has cerebral palsy. One person at the office once asked is there any chance he will get better and could work? I don't blame the workers,they just follow a scripts set by heartless cunts
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Surely they must hate themselves for following it though? if not on an ethical standpoint but on an intellectual pride standpoint. How can you not know cerebral palsy isn't curable, with all the foundations and their adds?
Yeah . Imagine the egg on the govts face of centrelink workers went on strike . Nope we refuse to help u attack disabled people. The people would rip the govt apart
Yeah I have said that to the team leader. If u want us to keep coming in for the meetings make sure that bloke is not the person who serves us he is an idiot.
Do they think someone just wakes up one day without Downs Syndrome
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So why do you need a new medical certificate every year for a condition that cannot, by definition, change...
Because leaners and junk?!
Maybe an incredible medical breakthrough that only they know