extracanadian•

Good thing they protected us with that publication ban otherwise we would know it was the OPP that screwed up and allowed a rapist and murder to go free.

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FitHippieCanada•

OPP, City PDs, Judicial System as a whole... there are shitty people who do shit work at every level of law enforcement. Just like any other field of work, only this particular brand of problem gets media attention. I'm not saying it's okay, I'm saying it's people. Some people suck, whether they're law enforcement, a grocery store owner, a personal trainer, or chicken farmer (etc. ad nauseam).

Let's think critically to make improvements to employment across all sectors of the job market, including guidance for our youth to direct them into more personally fulfilling careers where they can really care about what they do.

TL;DR - some people suck, including, but not limited to, law enforcement.

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Data_7OP•

Reminds me of an exchange from Jurassic Park:

Hammond: When they opened Disney Land in 1956 nothing worked.

Malcolm: Yeah, but John, when 'Pirates of the Caribbean' breaks down the pirates don't eat the tourists.

Essentially, it's one thing to say that everyone makes mistakes, but there are some situations when we expect people to, at the very least, not make extremely serious mistakes. Allowing an admitted child rapist/murder to walk free for ten years is one such mistake. It's not great when a personal trainer or grocer messes up, but the worst-case scenarios when they do is maybe a broken arm or a nasty case of food poisoning; when law enforcement personnel screw up, lives are either lost or put at risk in no small way.

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FitHippieCanada•

I totally agree - the stakes are much higher on a regular basis for those in law enforcement. There's no excuse for endangering citizens or perpetrating injustice. All I meant to say was that people are flawed - we screw up everything from food to carrying out justice.

In the case of law enforcement, perhaps it's time we look to other models of judicial systems as a guide to how we can do things better. I don't have the solution, but I do believe we have the ability to make our judicial system more fair, transparent and with minimal biases.

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Data_7OP•

Fair enough. I think I've just heard the "it's a tough job; we're all Human" defence enough times at this point that I automatically associate it with folks blindly defending incompetent or wannabe-cowboy cops. For what it's worth, I think we have one of the best judicial systems in the world, but it still leaves a lot to be desired. Better minds than mine ought to work towards that.

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extracanadian•

What they did was hide his incompetence preventing any sort of corrective action

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thisonetimeonreddit•

Well, in other areas outside of Law Enforcement or being a shitty bureaucrat for the city, you can actually get fired for being bad at your job, or outright malfeasance.

That doesn't seem to be the case with LEOs or prosecutors. Case in point, in the past, prosecutors have not seen charges even after evidence has come to light that they conspired to incriminate innocents.

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focus_rising•

It sounds like was solved back in 2004 and it was police error that kept the suspect from being jailed the first time around.

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theottomaddox•

In August 2004, Anthony Ringel confessed to Christine's murder and police charged him with murder but in 2006, a judge dismissed charges due to key evidence that was deemed inadmissible.

In case anyone was wondering...

We do know the OPP made a mistake. They didn't have a lawyer present for Anthony at the time. And that's why his testimony got thrown out. So they did admit to that.

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dollarsandcents101•

How did they get him to confess the second time? A "Mr Big" scenario?

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ManofManyTalentz•

She had stayed home in the morning, but headed to school around lunch after a truancy officer called.

Wait, what? When does this happen?

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