Hi everybody! I've been absent on here for a while due to a hard studying session.
I just received an e-mail from XC, he's offering said compounds and I am wondering if they'd be worth a try.
Prices are 10$/g for 2-FEA, 9$/g for 3-FEA and 8$/g for 4-FEA.
Has anybody already tried any of these compounds?
Posted Oct 25, 2016, 8:08 AM UTC
Yea, I ordered MEM and a couple phens he had listed, back in September. Nothing's shipped yet, don't even know if they've been synthed yet.
Don't waste your time
Had a similar experience. Ordered MBQ in April because it was "in stock". Every email I sent they replied that it would ship next week. It took 2 months to eventually ship but I got it, and it was legit. My guess is they accept orders to fund a synthesis. I've heard others receive their stuff in a week, but its just not worth the hassle and uncertainty
Yea, kinda just hoping to get if before the new year lol. But, for what I ordered and it's price point, if it's all quality, it could take six months and I'll still call it a win.
Sorry for your loss man!
Did you leave a review? I haven't been around on here for a while, so I may have missed on something....
I haven't, gonna give it another month. Worst case scenario, I replace it with a piss ton 4-EMC
That's a good plan! Especially for the 4-EMC part eheh;)
I also ordered many chems back in September. There was no indication of which were in stock and which weren't. When I asked when they'd ship I was told they were still being produced. Still waiting...
I don't get why people are excited about these 2,3,4-FEAs, there is a lot of research that shows that extending the alkyl chains on amphetamines leads to a decrease in potency as well as less pleasant effects. Just look at ethylamphetamine vs methamphetamine. The latter is causing a U.S epidemic of addiction while N-ethylamphetamine is nowhere even close to methamphetamine. Are people just looking for any replacement for 2-FMA or..?
BTW, I would personally stay far away from this vendor. He's scammed multiple customers, sent extremely dirty RCs with multiple unreacted chemicals and claims to conveniently stock things such treasures like MEM.
I also haven't read any positive reviews from him in several months, just lots of gossip. The 10g minimum is also crazy even if it's mix and match. I don't want to pay him 140$ on my first go.
Well, about pharmacodynamics...I wouldn't speak before having some in-vivo tests done.
I remember reading an article about halogenated amphetamines on Bluelight...it was received by the community with so much of a hype because it stated these compounds were highly neurotoxic, and was mainly based on writer's speculation.
This was more than 5 years ago.
Now we know that there are a bunch of halogenated amphetamines which aren't neurotoxic on the short term. And we know this because a relarively large amount of people have tried said compounds without finding any proof of neurotoxicity.
Same goes for FEAs...I wouldn't speak on their effects quality without trying them.
As far as xc is concerned, it appears he's a complete scammer, and we should deny to him the right of posting here as a vendor.
People writing about their experiences on message boards does not constitute proof that their not neurotoxic in the short run. People don't feel if a drug is neurotoxic. Even clinical tests are not reliable for determining if someone has experienced any actual neurological damage from drugs.
There is a paper which described what about a dozen patients experienced on 4-CA and none of them described any outlandish negative effects even though their serotonin cells were being killed. On the contrary some said it helped with their depression.
On a side note, the Ministry of Health in the Netherlands put out a preliminary report saying that they have evidence of 4-FA causing some hospitalizations in the Netherlands. I can't find if they released any substantial research yet, but the verdict is still out on whether Fluorinated amphetamines are significantly neurotoxic or not. 4-FA is still as much an RC as it was 4 years ago. There are simply more reports of people trying it, that's all.
Not that I am defending him, but some of his chems only cost 2$ per gram. I wanted to place an order, but I've seen too much evidence of him jerking too many folks around including at least one known trusted vendor
I did successfully receive TMA-6, escaline, 3C-E and some of his other less valuable products. However, my third order was over two months ago, and when I emailed him yesterday, he said he was still synthing it (MEM, TMA-2, Proscaline, 3C-P, TMA-6). I was fairly annoyed to be honest, and I dont have high hopes. Ah well. If you order from him make sure it isnt your last dollar, and make sure to keep expectations low. Who knows, you might get lucky, you might not.
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Have you sampled the 3C-E or the escaline?
I have sampled the escaline, along with some of my friends and we all found it to be quite good. I have only allergy tested the 3C-E though.
That's great to hear, I picked up a few grams of each a while back but haven't had the time/solitude to trip since then. Thanks
I want to try them quite badly, but I highly doubt they are what they are supposed to be.
Yeah, as u/zombielives stated, XC, along with other Chinese vendor, isn't the best option if you want to get what you paid for or if you want a pure synthesis.
I was wondering if somebody has any experience involving FEAs to share?
What's the MOQ?
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Haha that's MBQ
loool... right, I totally misread!
Sorry.
Derp.
10g total.
So you can mix-and-match any products you want to order.
So they've started offering it at lower quantities? A month ago they said the MOQ for 2-FEA and 4-FEA was 100g because it would have to be a custom synth.
No, the 10g mix-and-match policy works for the compounds he has in actual stock.
He offered to synth 2/3/4-FEA, therefore MOQ or, Minimum Synthesis Quantity is 100g.
It's 10g
nope, its 10g for xianchong but for the FEA things it's a custom synth with a MOQ of 100g he doesnt have these thingsd made, hjes just able to make them.
Whoopsies
I've seen one Reddit member say that he paid XC for a custom synth and he never delivered.
Also, Im not going to name the vendor, but there's a vendor who I am in contact with quite a lot, and he ordered 100 grams of 2-FEA from XC....XC made it seem like he had the product on hand, then told the vendor that oops, nope he actually has to synth it before he can get it. XC has been giving him the run around since. Proceed with caution folks.
One of the dirtiest RC's ED has ever tested was some 4-MeO-PCP acquired through XC.
The only positive thing in this post I have to say for XC is that about 2 or 3 years ago I made an order with him, and it did actually go well. Got 20 total grams of various chems, and I did recieve my pack. The quality of almost of all of them was good, I remember 1 or 2 of the chems werent that great though. However, keep in mind, this was years ago.
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Thanks for pointing this out.
I myself would consider this vendor a scammer then.
Selective scammer is more like it, cuz I've seen other people say they've gotten orders from him successfully. On top of that, he just seems unreliable as fuck, un-motivated, and has no sense of urgency. Procrastination and lies.
In a few words.... An e-mail Chinese vendor😂
I've dealt with many, many e-mail and website chinese vendors...some of them are exactly how I described XC. But I have done business with some amazing and reliable chinese RC vendors.
i remember the same thing about a redditor who pay big bucks to xc and receive nothing
Xianchong Is not very reliable
AFAIK they never outright steal from anyone and they generally do deliver. 2-FEA at those prices is worth the gamble, someone will just need to send a sample to Energy Control so we can be sure they aren't relabeling their recent unpopular 4-CMA synth. Who the actual fuck would commission a 4-CMA synth anyway?
If you feel that way then go right ahead and be the very first person ever to test this compound that you have to spend $900 on for 100g and then get 3rd party tested and then after all that may be legit but it ends up the chemical itself sucks.
The MOQ is 10g and I won't be placing an order as I've got 2-FMA on the way :)
I just told you 2-FEA is different you HAVE to buy 100g. For normal orders from xianchong MOQ is 10g but FEA is different you have to request a custom synthesis. Didn't you read my comment