Dealing with customs when selling something across the border?

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Hey all,

I live in Vancouver, and I'm in the process of selling my mountain bike. I was contacted by someone in the US, saying they're willing to buy it if I drive it over to Sumas. I've looked around a bit but can't find anything on either customs website regarding this.

Just wondering if anyone has any information or experience with this, or could point me in the right direction.

*Edited for clarity

Posted Nov 10, 2016, 9:37 AM UTC · edited

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DelSolMan•

I've had so many local CL deals flake I would never consider driving out of my way to sell something.

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AssRapeMcButtFuck•

Ex-customs guy here.

Why? Why are you doing this? Is this person offering you an unreasonably high price? Have you considered that this may be a scam? It sounds sketchy as hell, and the people at the border are going to pick up on that. You will probably be questioned extensively, and this bike of yours will be searched as well.

At the very least, they'll consider this to be a commercial entry. That means a ~$15 fee just for crossing the border (payable in US dollars only.) You'll need paperwork such as a bill of sale, packing slip, etc. you need to have the correct paperwork with you and in order or you'll be sent home, minus your considerable time and processing fee.

I'd strongly recommend contacting a border broker to act on your behalf. It will at least add some legitimacy to your plan. Again, it will cost you a nominal fee, but I'd assume the bike must be of a high enough value that this wouldn't be a real concern.

Again, this does not sound legitimate. Have you been to Sumas? It's a restaurant, a few gas stations, a grocery store and forty churches. Oh yeah, and s shit ton of meth-heads. I wouldn't be surprised if you went to all this trouble if some tweaker shoved a gun in your chest and relieved you of your bike behind the IGA.

Tread carefully.

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_fortuneOP•

Why are you doing this? Is this person offering you an unreasonably high price?

Because I'd like to sell my bike, and if that means delivering it 45 minutes away that's fine. The buyer would be driving up from Tacoma, which is quite a bit farther.

Have you considered that this may be a scam?

Could be, but if you look at the higher mountain bike prices across the border and then factor in conversion, the guy's just getting a hell of a deal buying from Canada. I'd do the same to save 30-50%.

Thanks for your post though. Seems like too much of a hassle to be worth it.

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DelSolMan•

Good post. The other thing on my mind is a last minute lowball effort. OP drives a few hours and gets there. The other guy has a HUGE advantage in negotiation a lower price point because the other guy either takes the lower price or has to drive back wasting time and gas.

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neilc6•

If you take something across the border you've sold, it is considered a commercial entry. You can not use your Nexus pass and are subject to a $13.05 commercial vehicle entry fee. Search the CBP US website.

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rexduke•

can you cross at the regular crossing or do you have to get in the commercial truck lane?

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Christof604•

What will you be doing with that bike

Riding it

Ok have a nice day sir

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Misaki_Yuki•

It's like selling anything else. Take it across the border, tell them that it's been purchased by someone on the other side, give them the purchasers information, and the purchaser will be responsible for paying any duties/taxes/etc (used items other than collectibles tend not to have significant enough duties/taxes for customs agents to care.) The US border people might not care enough if it's not worth more than $800

When you come back, you tell the customs agents that you sold your item to a someone in the US, you should have a duplicate receipt of the transaction so that customs knows where the money came from. The buyer is responsible for paying state taxes, you are only responsible for claiming income later.

If would be considered smuggling if you do not declare the item, and that results in jail time. Make sure to save all emails regarding the transaction, because that will likely save you in the event that you aren't believed.

http://www.tradelawyersblog.com/blog/article/canada-border-services-agency-has-difficulties-with-cross-border-private-sales/

That said, if you are taking it across the border, you are carrying the risk. Both for importing it and in case the US resident is unwilling to buy it when it gets there, or does in fact steal it from you. It would be better to actually get US citizens to come here, but there may be reasons why they can't (eg no passport, or previous inadmissible to Canada.)

One thing that watching the Border Security show revealed is that each border crossing looks for specific things, typically drugs, and thus if you come back with a large quantity of cash that you can't explain, you will be grilled on it and if you don't declare it, you may lose it.

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AssRapeMcButtFuck•

Ex-customs guy here. This person is full of shit. Please don't listen to them.

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Misaki_Yuki•

As opposed to the person who suggested just claiming it stolen. Please. Anyone who has ever bought anything online knows that ticking the "gift" box means that customs is going open it if it's bigger than a card. This is no different. You lie, you go risk jail.

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AssRapeMcButtFuck•

To be honest, I find your advice to be much more harmful.

"Report it stolen" guy can be easily ignored due to his advocacy of committing an offense.

You, on the other hand, took casual observations from a TV show, processed (albeit poorly) the information you gleaned, and passed it off as fact.

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Misaki_Yuki•

I cross the border a few times of the year and I tell the truth.

All the TV show reveals is that people always get caught in lies.

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BackdoorAlex2•

Tell border guard you are riding the north shore. Tell border guard on way back your bike got stolen in Vancouver.

Profit

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_fortuneOP•

Sorry, other way around. I live in Canada, travelling to the US to sell my bike.

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BackdoorAlex2•

My apologies, 2 am my reading skills don't work so good.

Same thing, meeting up with some buds to ride in the USA and bike got stolen from car when eating at arbys

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redsmurf1film industry•

Go Mtn Biking on Mount Baker.

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beznazwy•

This is a bad idea, but you don't need the second part. The Canadian border guards on re-entry don't have a record that tells them that you should be returning with a mountain bike.

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Crossing_T•

"Sir, why do you have this wad of cash?"

"Sir, why did they take your bike but not your wad of cash?"

Just declare your intentions and save yourself the headache.

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azzurro32•

This problem is solved with a little bit of blow and a whole lot of hookers in the states

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Christof604•

They don't need to know about the was of cash... Reminds me of a movie I saw once that was comedy but kind of accurate

Drives up to border car loaded with obvious beers and jerry cans of gas

Anything to declare sir?

Nope

Ok sir welcome back to Canada.

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