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dilbot3OP•

As if reducing overrun from 90 days to 60 will make one whit of difference.

Warning, picture of Dutton in link.

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Riku1186•

Thanks for the warning, last thing I want to look at is that thing.

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pixelwhip•

It'll just mean they spend less money in Australia.

Hell let them stay 6 months after, I don't care. What we need is for the 457 jobs list to be revised to only have jobs that have skill shortages, tafe needs to be refunded, education should remain affordable & expand the apprenticeship program

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Glenn20•

Cooks and hairdressers should not even be considered

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pixelwhip•

And if you get a visa for a specific profession you shouldn't be able to use it to drive a cab or work at a 7-11 instead

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flashmanwe'll all be rooned•

90 days was the recommendation in the 2008 Deegan Report, not implemented until 2013.

Incidentally Dutton said:

“Labor’s mismanagement saw the Subclass 457 program grow from around 68,000 primary visa holders at the end of June 2010 to more than 110,000 when they were removed from office.

In comparison, under the Coalition the number of 457 visa holders in Australia has fallen by around 13,000, while over the same period almost half a million new jobs have been created for Australian workers”

Which is hilarious because AFAIK the 457 visa program was last changed by the ALP in June 2013, so any resulting reductions must flow from that. And oh look that's exactly what Immigration's own stats show: a near-40% decrease in visa applications in the year following the ALP changes (source page 7).

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Mico4•

It sure made a difference when Labor increased it to 90 from 28 in 2011.

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flashmanwe'll all be rooned•

No, they increased it in 2013 (not 2011) along with other changes, and applications decreased 40%.

Why did applications go down despite number of days going up? Because:

  • labour market testing came into play (requirement for the business to prove it had already tried to place an Australian in the job)
  • application fees went up
  • sponsors had to directly employee the recipient (not through an associated entity)
  • sponsors were capped at a 'reasonable' number of places (down from 'unlimited')

The ALP legislated these changes before being voted out in 2013. Now the Coalition is taking the credit for the resulting fall in applications.

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EconomicDecline•

"This change is about reducing competition from overseas workers for those Australians who are actively looking for work," Mr Dutton said in a statement on Wednesday afternoon.

They shouldn't be competition in the first place.

 

From the Department of Immigration and Border Protection - Temporary Work (Skilled) visa (subclass 457)

The Temporary Work (Skilled) visa (subclass 457) allows skilled workers to come to Aust​ralia and work for an approved business for up to four years.

You must be sponsored by an approved business. A business can sponsor someone for this visa if they cannot find an Australian citizen or permanent resident to do the skilled work.

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Dmaharg•

They shouldn't be competition in the first place.

Freudian slip.

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adamh707•

More of the same from the LNP of playing the blame game with Labor. "Elites, olympic grade 457 visa issuer" These people are so out of touch. A grade wankers, just do your job. Professionals don't play the blame game in my office, why should they?

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Glenn20•

Australia gets what 200,000 to 350,000 thousand new jobs each year and these 457s are approved at 40,000-60,000 a year? That's what 12-25% of all new jobs being filled by a 457 rather than training up an Australian to permanently fill that role. Add to that working holiday visas and overseas uni graduates who recieve permanent residency. What hope is there for Australia's fresh graduates and long term unemployed?

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INeedACuddle•

Labor extended the period to 90 days from 28 days as part of its overhaul of the 457 visa system toward the end of the Rudd/Gillard era.

i'd be a lot happier if the current government reversed its predecessor's error fully by reducing the period back to 28 days rather than 60

australian jobs should only go to imported labour if there are NO australians willing and able to do said work

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sphinx80•

Don't fall for the distraction about the 'after job time limit'. It makes no difference for anything.

It needs to be more economic for industries to rely on locals than importing skills. Why are the eligible professions list never updated? Why are known rorts able to continue?

Unless action is taken on these fronts, the government is just doing a scum bag 'Look over there' move.

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flashmanwe'll all be rooned•

The 2008 Deegan report recommended 90 days and the Transport Workers Union actually proposed a 60 day compromise, so they should be happy with today's changes.

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baazaa•

Temporary work visas at least perform a valid function, no matter how good your education and training system or your industrial policy, there's going to be short-term fluctuations in demand for workers that can't be met by locals.

Why do we have to flood the country with permanent skilled migrants though? They're the ones actively displacing locals and there's more of them coming in every year than the there are 457 workers in the entire economy. Scrapping the 457 program completely would do less than simply halting permanent migration for one year.

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Timmeh•

True. But at least this is a start. This is a worldwide issue that's finally starting to unravel as local denizens finally wake up to the reality that globalisation may make trinkets cheaper at the cost of becoming pawns in the corporate desire to chase profit at any expense.

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BrownLeatherCoat•

Just scrap the 457 system. Short of that, introduce 100,000 fines for every employer who scams it. Deport those who abuse it and those who enable or shelter them. Give rewards to dob in visa abuse.

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