6-APB

Hi everybody, I'd like to share my experience with this awesome chemical.

So, last Saturday, along with my two fellow friends and research colleagues, I dropped 100 mg 6-APB Hydrocloride, wrapped in a small piece of toilet paper. We waited for the chemical to come up in the apartment of one of us. After smoking a joint of some good Sativa,we all agreed we were starting to feel our limbs tingling a bit and we also noticed our body temperature had risen a bit as well.

So we decided to go out. Entering a small supermarket, where one of us bought a lighter, felt definetely strange: the people inside felt strange, we all agreed about the fact the colours were more saturated and vivid than usual, and I personally found the sounds to be more profound and defined as well. We headed to the city centre,where there were lots of people (Saturday evening). We decided to sit and have a beer outside of a nice bar. Relating to some friends I met wasn't difficult at all, but 6-APB was definetely starting to hit us (T:+1H). At this point, the three of us were able to experience the psychedelic naure of this chemical: everything felt and looked "trippy", but in a subtle way. This compound has the beautiful feature of being perfectly balanced: all its features, including euphoria (which was great, nearly overwhelming, at this point), stimulation (strong as well, in a pleasant kind of way) and tripyiness, were perfectly "dosed".

So, after the come-up, we wandered for a bit, appreciating the architectural style of some buildings, which was definetely influenced by Palladian and Venetian style (to give you an idea, the White Hous, is a Neopalladian building). After finding a quiet spot near our former high school, we decided to smoke a joint. All of a sudden, our joint-rolling activity was interrupted by a police patrol which had come out of nowhere. We all feared the worst. We were still very much in control,despite 6-APB, as one officer was stepping out of the car. We thought he was there to arrest us, but then we realized he just had to check the parking ticket of some cars.We kept cool and after some time we decided to leave.This happened at T:+1H30m.

We walked a bit and headed to a store where we bought a tea bottle, just in case some of us needed to hydrate or to intake sugars. Walking in the sore felt strange and funny, but we were not, nor we looked, messed-up.

After smoking a joint in a park nearby, we had to change our plans for the night: one of us, who suffers from chronic headache, was feeling too sick to stay outside, so we headed to his house, where we had ingested 6-APB about two and a half hours before.

There he could lay on his bed in a comfortable environment. He manifested the desire to puke, so we helped him to make his way to the toilet, because he had his head spinning too fast to stand. While he was having a hard time in the toilet, I and a fellow friend prepared a cup of tea for everybody, including his mother, who was talking on the phone in another room. At this point, I experienced maybe one of the most heartfelt feeling I have ever had in my whole life: I felt so connected to my fellows, which I loved and love, and I felt so happy and grateful because they were,and are, friends of mine. After B ( the ill fellow) came back from the toilet, I and T (the other friend) went out on the terrace and had another joint hearing to some good songs from The Doors and Phish from a portable bluetooth speaker. Then, while inside, I had a revelation : T made me noticed that I had been behaving rudely in the last weeks, and I felt so bad and guilty for this. I wasn't angry with him at all, I was angry with myself, because I sometimes was conscious of my rude behaviour, but always did nothing about it. We had a discussion about this, and at the end the three of us hugged and felt very connected to eachother.

Given B as feeling definetely better, at T:+5H30m we decided to go outside again and we so we spent the remaining part of the night wandering around, talking about some very interesting topics such as psychology and psychedelic culture and smoking joints, as the effects were wearing off.

We separated at T:+8H30m, and each of us headed to his own house.

Now, after the narrative part of this report, I'm going to give you a quantitative insight about this wonderful chemical.

Euphoria: 5/5 Sometimes it felt a bit overwhelming, especially on the tail-end of the come-up, but was overall pleasant and nearly oragsmic. Our body were feeling great, I personally experienced a nice electric feeling flowing through my limbs, and had a nice and constant euphoric rush throughout the whole evening.

Visuals: 3.5/5 I had some visual distortions such akin'to seeing the world through a fishbowl, but the most prominent visual effects were colour saturation and enhancement,which were both extreme. I experienced some nice CEVs as well ater coming down, probably akin'to those one would get from 1.5-2g P. Cubensis.

Stimulation:4/5 This feature was nearly overwhelming during the come-up, but then settled down to a nice stimmy feeling which was pleasant and even functional ( we ingested 6-APB at 4:50 PM and by 1:00 AM we were still full of energy), and was easily counteracted by weed (eheh :)). Nobody had troubles falling asleep.

Duration/Headspace:5/5 Duration was about 8H45m, so quite long for a benzofuran, but this wasn't unpleasant at all. The mental effects were pronounced and positive throughout the whole trip, which proved to be very constant and balanced in all its features, which started fading past the 6H30m mark.

After effects: We all had a nice afterglow, so no hangover like as with some stimulants or as with Methylenedioxymethamphetamine.

Overall: This was one of my best expereinces with RCs, hands down. Even this was far more pleasant than expected, I personally see no dangers in matter of addiction or compulsive redosing.This feature depends on personal charcteristics though, so that's only my personal opinion. As a Psychology student, I think this substance could follow the path of MDMA in a therapeutic environment, it has a great potential. Keep in mind that we experimented with the .Hcl salt, which is more potent by weight than the more common Succinic Acid salt synthesis, due to the lack of succinic acid leftovers and 4-APB, an inactive isomer which is produced in large quantities in this synthesis procedure. I think that this chemical could fit in basically every envinoment, ranging from parties to festivals, form hiking in nature to a nice evening at home, at the right dosage. I think 100 mg is my sweet spot, but I'll definetely try this one at 125 or maybe even 150 mg one day.

Thanks for reading, if you have any question feel free to ask!:)

Posted Nov 16, 2016, 7:07 PM UTC

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hypnagoggle•

Wow, real-deal HCL, eh? I didn't think that existed.

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

Sometimes mircacles do happen:)

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bamoida2•

Thank you for your report, very well written!

I ordered from the same vendor, I just hope it arrives, as there have been lots of seizures in my country(Austria) lately according to another vendor.

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

Thanks!

Sorry to hear that:( I hope your parcel arrives safe and sound!

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phagemasterflex•

Nice nice. It's my favorite RC and favorite drug in general. I find it has all the positives of MDMA without many of the negatives, especially a much easier comedown/next day.

Still, the benzofurans have been postulated to be dangerous with frequent usage due to strong 5HT2b agonism.

Nonetheless, great drug and one of the real gems that has luckily made a comeback over the past year or two.

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

Yeah, I definetely agree about the possible carsiotoxicity due to 5-HT2B receptor agonsim.

Nevertheless, I think it can easily be avoided by not abusing the substance and by not using it too often.

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phagemasterflex•

100% agree and you nailed it in that it's not compulsive. It's a 4-5 times a year thing for me personally as I never want to lose this magic.

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

Yeah, I think that's the golden rule with all serotonin releasers. They don't necessarely bear severe toxicity, but messing with our serotonin stash may be really harmful, both physiologically and physiologically.

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Jmths•

In my experience 6-APB doesn't feel more cardiovasculair then MDMA. 5HT2b agonism can become dangerous quickly when overdosing but since 6-APB doesn't come in pre pressed (200mg) pills and since it peaks less hard then similair substances I don't see this happening quickly. :)

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phillyfanjd•

Great trip report! One of the best experiences I've ever had was 6-APB + bumps of MXE + a little nitrous while peaking and you'll find out the true definition of euphoria :)

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

Thanks for the input!

I haven't done extensive research on MXE, due to the big drought, but I bet it increases the psychedelic side of 6-APB and maybe settles stimulation down a bit.

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phillyfanjd•

You're welcome!

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

Thanks!:)

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captaincannibal•

I wish this stuff wasn't so expensive. I'm stuck between this or restocking deschloroketamine on my next order.. god it sounds lovely though.

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

It is, indeed.

It's not actually expensive if you know where to look at:)

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LordGSO•

What's the conversion from hcl to succinic acid batches of 6-APB?

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

I 'm not a chemist so I don't know if you can actually convert 6-APB hydrocloride to succinate, anyway, even if there was a way to do it, I see no point in it: the Hydrocloric version is more potent by weight than the succinic one.

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bamoida2•

1 mg 6-APB.HCl is equal to around 1.4mg 6-APB.Hydrogensuccinate, assuming both products are equally pure.

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carnageeleven•

I had a love affair with 6-apb years ago. I was getting the succinate. I found the come up of anything over 75 mg to be a bit scary. But once it plateaued it was amazing. I had to swear off of it though because I couldn't control myself and i would binge for days without food or sleep. The week following was pure hell. The thing about 6-apb is you can redose indefinitely and there never seemed to be a tolerance build up. I would buy a gram and just binge until it was gone. Beautiful chemical... But dangerous.

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

Yeah, I read a couple of reports on erowid.org about the so called "redosing loop" 6-APB caused to more than somebody.

It seems this substance does not cause any tolerance buildup, nevertheless, I'd use it sparingly and I'd never redose it compulsively.

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kensalwhip•

Is this the stuff that was marketed as 'Benzo Fury'? I tried it twice, once at a BBQ where I gave it to a couple of friends too. We all loved it, quite similar to MDMA in many ways but actually better in some for me personally as I have such a high tolerance to MDMA that I can easily plough through a couple of grams over a night.

I think I just had two tablets of this stuff, double dropping and while I could still be social without those who I didn't want to know I was popping I still felt great, very social and energetic, a little euphoric too if memory serves.

However, it gave me one of the worst headaches I've ever had the next day and I'm someone who takes a lot of RC stims with almost zero comedown to speak of.

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

Yes, it was first marketed under the trade name of "Benzo-Fury" when it hit the market.

I'm not sure about this point, but I bet those pellets were not 100% pure: they could have anything besides 6-APB inside as a filler, hence your headache.

Or, it could be due to dehydration ( also possible with this substance).

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kensalwhip•

Not sure on potency, they were the branded tablets from an official vendor when they were quite new, batch 3 I think.

Definitely not headaches due to dehydration, I was a massive pill popper at the time, friends would take two over a night and I'd sometimes drop five at once of the same. While I felt useless during comedowns I didn't experience headaches like this, may just be how my chemistry reacts to this substance in particular.

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

Well, then it's probably dose-related.

I bet your pellets were dosed somewhere between 85 and 100 mg each.

I only took 100mg so it is possible that if you take 3x the amount I took you may get headaches and/or a hangover.

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Hereandnow32•

Well I think my cat has found the perfect mix for this product ......100 mg 6-apb 50 mg ethyl-hexeadrone and 20 mg 4-ho-mipt ......If your cat has a high tolerance like mine does you will have to do this mix every 3 to 4 hours but let my cat tell you it was the best roll my cat had in a long time even right now 10 hrs after my cats last dose gets a full effects for about an hour .....damn cat did a gram of each ethyl- hexadrone and 6apb.....currently my cat has Molly and now says the only difference is,the comedown the rcs put off a nice clean comedown very energetic with the mix. A lot of euphoria and increased libido...

IMY cat purchased from RESEARCH CHEMICAL GROUP NEDERLANDS. Don't pick dsl option takes to long if you keep,your shipments under 5g it will pass easy but do pick the registered mail mine came in,7 days but make sure it home that day to sign for package

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

Thanks for the input!:)

I'm glad your cat is having a great time experimenting:)

Anyway, can you comment on RGN's products quality? I heard that they're been selling products that are possibly cut, lately.

How was your 6-APB quality?

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thetruth42069•

I also got 6-APB from rgnl that was weak. Somebody who took 150mg and it was described as mild.

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[deleted]•

My RGN 6-apb batch is awfully weak. I'm about to reagent test the crap.

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research101•

Did you test it? What were the results? I got a order coming in of 5-apb 6-apb 4-fa 4-fma and a sample of 5-mapb and 1p-lsd. I am wondering maybe if its just a weak batch and if it is, the dosage needed for appropriate reactions.

SI has also been providing some weaker 6-apb, based on recent posts, perhaps its from the same batch?

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TheHashCommodoreOP•

That's what I heard about their products, they are probably cut with some inactive stuff.

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kensalwhip•

Possibly, I just checked and the pellets were 125mg each so I dosed 250mg. I did enjoy it a lot but generally wouldn't want to dose much lower as I like to fly. I'd be happy to give a lower dose a go and see how I get on given you experience though.

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