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FirstTimeDota

looking to upgrade form endura t22, but completely overwhelmed by all the information out there

I fairly recently started vaping by getting an Innokin Endura T22. It's not too bad, but I don't think it's a good fit for me personal for a couple reasons:

  • I seem to have problems with my throat irritation when vaping 50/50 liquid vs higher VG liquid. This vape doesn't really seem well suited for max VG, and I've been told it will significantly reduce the coil life. This is the main thing for me. The throat irritation I've gotten is just awful to deal with to the point it turns me off vaping.
  • There's not quite as much flavor as I'd like or had expected, and some flavors in particular seem especially muted.

I've looked around on this subreddit and a few other places to try and get information, but I honestly just feel dumber the more I read. There's so many different recommendations and jargon and tech that it's a bit overwhelming. I just want something that's simple for me to fill up and vape on during the day without having to get into all the super technical I see some people talking about. The T22 was great in that regard since it's just top fill and fire.

I've looked at the Cool Fire IV Plus which a lot of people seem to say provides a good amount of flavor, but I'm not sure if I'm committed to dropping 60 bucks on one just to find out it's not much of an improvement for me. Though the price range isn't super high, it's still enough that where I spend it counts for me.

I'd really appreciate it if someone gave me a few recommendations to look at that might be a good fit without breaking the bank too much and if they've had personal experience with these devices.

Posted Dec 8, 2016, 10:56 PM UTC

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Architechno27•

The Joyetech AiO may suit your needs. MUCH more flavor than the endura, and simple and cheap. $17 shipped from 101vape last i checked.

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FirstTimeDotaOP•

Hmm. Looking at this this they have a more pen looking one and a then a box version for a little more. I'm surprised that it costs less than the T22 was, but you say it provides better flavor. This might be what just what I need.

How well would this kind of setup handle high or full VG liquid?

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iLoveMyPuppySoMuch•

Keep in mind it's all subjective. I find the t22 has way more flavor then the joytech Aio.

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Architechno27•

Probably not so well. Its still a pretty small coil, but the resistance is about 1/3 of the t22, so therein comes the flavor (more juice used). I have a T18, i believe those coils are 1.5 ohm and the aio is 0.6.

I would stay at 30pg/70vg or lower, but i dont really use anything higher than that in the vg department personally.

Edit: speaking more to the flavor, the aio has what they call a restrictive lung hit, meaning greater airflow that allows you to move slightly away from a typical mouth to lung hit. This is how ive been using it, so that most likely contributes a lot to my increased flavor. You could still hit it with the airflow turned down and the flavor may be more on par with the endura t22 as the other poster is suggesting.

Ive been using 50/50 in it, but havent tried any higher in the aio yet. PG is the better flavor carrier from what ive read.

Since you have an aversion to PG, which is typically better in smaller devices, you may want to step up to a box mod and larger tank. You should search for vape shops in your area and go sample some juices using their equipment. It may give you an idea if you'd like larger lung hits or not.

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DGsirb1978•

You can also thin max VG with a little distilled water if it comes to that

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pwrgfr•

Went from the T22 to the iSub V tank on a iStick TC40W battery. Today I'd go for for the same tank on a Cool Fire IV TC 100W for a kick as* battery life. The trick is to only use the .5 ohm 20 - 35 watts coil and only vape it at 20 watts. This coil/tank combo is a decent intro to sub ohm vaping and each coil lasted me over two weeks. Still my backup.

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Lemonade727•

Just got in the Cool Fire IV TC 100W and using it with a 25mm super tank. The tank fits perfectly (ok, so there's a TINY gap between tank and mod, but it doesn't overhang on the edges) and I'm using the .5 ohm super tank coils. Pretty awesome flavor out of it, but can't comment on battery life as I literally just got it in today.

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FirstTimeDotaOP•

Looking at the Cool Fire IV TC100W you suggested looks like it's similar to the Cool Fire IV Plus, but has a higher potential wattage rating and comes with that iSub V tank instead of the iSub G, but both kits look to be essentially the same price. I'm guessing the one you suggested in the newer one? Is there any reason to go for one of these kits or the other or will they perform basically the same?

Sorry for asking what might be stupid questions, I'm really new to this all!

edit Also, will this setup handle high or full VG liquids in it?

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pwrgfr•

Think it's just ever so slightly newer model, nothing else really. The tank is just dirt cheap and a decent all rounder with said coil, and yes it does high VG, only vape 70/30 juices in mine.

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