Efficient skill leveling for SSR and UR cards

Information

I made this post as I recently have dug up further regarding skill leveling of SSR and UR out of dupe cards as a follow-up from u/TheOfficialTluds' post along with how I somehow pulled out 2nd and 3rd copy of SSR Initial Hanayo.

(TL;DR? Just jump down to the "Final words" section below)


Before we begin

For reference, the following is the old skill EXP chart for SSR and UR:

SSR Skill Levelrequires __ skill EXP from previous levelfor a total of __ skill EXP from level 1
100
2300300
3600900
412002100
518003900
627006600
7360010200
8450014700
UR Skill Levelrequires __ skill EXP from previous levelfor a total of __ skill EXP from level 1
100
210001000
320003000
440007000
5600013000
6900022000
71200034000
81500049000

And this is the current revamped EXP chart for those cards:

SSR Skill Levelrequires __ skill EXP from previous levelfor a total of __ skill EXP from level 1
100
2200200
3400600
48001400
512002600
624005000
732008200
8450012700
UR Skill Levelrequires __ skill EXP from previous levelfor a total of __ skill EXP from level 1
100
2300300
3600900
415002400
530005400
6500010400
7750017900
81200029900

From the follow-up post by u/TheOfficialTluds above, we learned that SSR and UR gives out a lot more EXP out of duplicates of the same SSR/UR at level 1. This is because, as a fodder duplicate card, they give out the same amount of EXP as the required skill EXP to level up to the next level from their current level using the OLD chart!

For example: UR with skill level 2 requires 2000 skill EXP to reach skill level 3 from the old chart above. Thus, if you practice away duplicate UR with skill level 2 to another same UR, it also gives you 2000 skill EXP.

With that said, we got the following table of how many skill EXP can a duplicate gives out when the duplicate is at their current skill level:

SSR Skill Levelgives out __ skill EXP to the same SSR
1300
2600
31200
41800
52700
63600
74500
86600

| UR Skill Level | gives out __ skill EXP to the same UR | |:-:|:-:|:-:| | 1 | 1000 | | 2 | 2000 | | 3 | 4000 | | 4 | 6000 | | 5 | 9000 | | 6 | 12000 | | 7 | 15000 | | 8 | 22000 |

Wait, how do you know that a duplicate SSR at skill level 8 gives out 6600 skill EXP to the same SSR, and a duplicate UR at skill level 8 gives out 22000 skill EXP to the same UR? Good question. If you compare the old SSR and UR skill EXP chart above with v4.0 R skill leveling post by u/juhneeee, you'll notice that their skill EXP chart are similar, only with larger numbers! The old SSR skill EXP chart is simply multiplied by 30 from R skill EXP chart, and the old UR skill EXP chart is simply multiplied by 100 from R skill EXP chart (As another note, I also suspected the same thing also applies to SR, with their skill EXP chart simply being multiplied by 10 from R skill EXP chart). From the R skill leveling post there, we also found out that R card at skill level 8 gives out 220 skill EXP. Thus, I simply multiplied the 220, by 30 for SSR and by 100 for UR.


Calculating the skill EXP difference and benefits

Now that we found out how many skill EXP is required to reach certain skill level for SSR and UR along with how many skill EXP can a duplicate gives out, we can come up with the following conclusion:

SSR Skill Levelrequires __ skill EXP from level 1and gives out __ skill EXP at current levelSkill EXP difference
10300+300
2200600+400
36001200+600
414001800+400
526002700+100
650003600-1400
782004500-3700
8127006600-6100
UR Skill Levelrequires __ skill EXP from level 1and gives out __ skill EXP at current levelSkill EXP difference
101000+1000
23002000+1700
39004000+3100
424006000+3600
554009000+3600
61040012000+1600
71790015000-2900
82990022000-7900

If you are comparing between feeding one duplicate with skill supports before feeding the duplicate away to the same card and feeding both one duplicate and several skill supports right away to the same card, simply subtract -300 for SSR and -1000 for UR to the Skill EXP difference on the above chart and we'll get the following benefits:

| Having a SSR fodder with Skill Level __ | has the benefit of __ against SSR fodder with Skill Level 1 along with skill supports | |:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| | 1 | 0 | | 2 | +100 | | 3 | +300 | | 4 | +100 | | 5 | -200 | | 6 | -1700 | | 7 | -4000 | | 8 | -6400 |

| Having a UR fodder with Skill Level __ | has the benefit of __ against UR fodder with Skill Level 1 along with skill supports | |:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| | 1 | 0 | | 2 | +700 | | 3 | +2100 | | 4 | +2600 | | 5 | +2600 | | 6 | +600 | | 7 | -3900 | | 8 | -8900 |


Final words

From above, we can conclude that:

  • It's more beneficial to feed duplicate SSR with skill supports until the duplicate has skill level 3 before feeding away to the same SSR.
  • It's more beneficial to feed duplicate UR with skill supports until the duplicate has skill level 4 or 5 before feeding away to the same UR, although feel free to stop at level 3 because the difference is negligible.
  • Anything beyond the said level and it's starting to go downhills!

Do note about the following factors:

  • Assuming that you do obtain duplicates of SSR/UR, is it more beneficial if you were to raise the skill compared to unlocking more slots? You don't want to raise a time-based skill unless you're an Easy/Normal player, do you?
  • Do you have UR/SSR cards in your mind that feels more worthy to raise their skill level on, other than duplicates you got if any? You should consider how many skill supports you'll need to raise the skill level of a duplicate, and the effort it takes to get the skill supports especially if you're F2P.

Posted Jan 1, 2017, 11:14 AM UTC · edited

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