Is now the best time to stock up on canned seafood?

Sockeye runs have been pretty good the past couple of years, so canned sockeye is fairly cheap in my area.

But I have a feeling this is it. And it's going to be a slow decline both in quality and volume, and in 5-10 years the fish I take for granted now is going to be extremely expensive.

I've eaten 10 year old canned fish before and it was totally fine. Should I spend a couple grand on canned fish? Am I crazy?

Posted Jan 3, 2017, 7:45 PM UTC

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preparing for the worst is never crazy

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ljheidel•

worst

If "I can't get canned fish" is your version of the apocalypse, you probably might want to reconsider your priorities.

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bitshifterOP•

Not being able to get seafood is a very likely outcome of a "collapse" (this is r/collapse, isn't it?), so why not plan for it?

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stumo•

Unless you're planning to buy a lifetime supply of canned salmon, whichever way you choose isn't going to make a whole lot of difference.

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knuteknuteson•

Canned goods aren't guaranteed to last forever. I found a can of sardines at my parent's house that had been forgotten about for maybe 3 years and it was all puffed up.

I didn't open it.

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stumo•
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no, i meant that preparing is always a good thing. My version of the Apocalypse is children being lured into alleyways and eaten by cannibals, just like the siege of Leningrad.

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ljheidel•

Now, that's what I have more in mind, unfortunately and horribly.

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goalfinger•

Pizza-gate customers have pre-booked all alleyways for their own version of the apocalypse. Cannibals must endeavour to keep their prey confined to the special buses provided.

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shortbaldman•

Except it won't just be canned fish, it will be a whole bunch of things.

All jokes aside, some of the early things that disappear are things that are cheap and bulky, like toilet-paper. Costly transport will be saved for stuff that's expensive and small - more of 'em in a single truck.

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ljheidel•

Except it won't just be canned fish, it will be a whole bunch of things.

Of course. I found it rather odd, however, that the OP focused on canned fish, and very specifically canned sockeye salmon. I mean, if half the country is covered in fallout, people are resorting to the cannibalism of the corpses of their loved ones, and roving bands of desperate outlaws are wondering the countryside wantonly murdering, raping and pillaging WROL, the last thing that is probably going to come to my mind is, "damn. You know what? I could really go for some fish cakes tonight."

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shortbaldman•

He was concentrating on sockeye because it was noticeably cheap and abundant. No doubt he would made a similar request if the item had been chicken chunks instead.

wantonly murdering, raping and pillaging

Non, no, no. The sequence must be correct. First you rape, then you pillage, and finally you murder if you feel it is necessary.

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stumo•

like toilet-paper.

Cheap attachment bidets for the win!

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shortbaldman•

In truth, I tried bidets several times. I really like them, much better than crumbly toilet paper that smears.

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knuteknuteson•

My friend's inlaws are hoarders. They hoard toilet paper.

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jasenlee•

I don't know why some of you guys are giving the OP shit. It's relatively cheap protein, easy to store, easy to transport, versatile in its use, lasts a long time and in a collapse scenario just as good as many other provisions. Besides with Fukushima who knows how much longer you'll be able to safely enjoy any Pacific fish.

Plus it tastes good and anything that will cheer you up in whatever your version of collapse looks like is a positive in my book.

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bitshifterOP•

Thanks man. I like lentils as much as the next guy, but if I'm gonna live in a post-collapse world for a few years, a can of salmon here and there seems like a good thing.

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Goochymayn•

I was in Alaska the last 2 summers fly fishing. Amazing experience btw, but what i can tell you is this. Those waters were FULL of Salmon. You could literally walk across some of the rivers on them if you wanted to.

It was insane to me because i know the statistics of how many fisheries are depleted and how biodiversity is suffering so much. Going there made me feel like there was still hope. That may be one of the last places on earth where nature is truly plentiful. I don't want it ruined.

The smartest thing to do would be to cease consuming seafood/animal products immediately, but if you must have it, i wouldn't worry about a salmon shortage for another 5-10 years. Of course, some other factors could chime in (ocean acidification being one).

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bitshifterOP•

Acidification is mostly what I'm worried about.

I've considered slowing down my seafood consumption. But then it's just cheaper for a billion Chinese who couldn't give any less of a fuck. If there's legislation to end commercial fishing, I'll be for it, but until then I'm getting in my share..

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Goochymayn•

Haha, good point. You should read up on ocean acidification then. There are plenty of easily accessible articles and papers on it. From what i understand, it can only get worse.

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entropys_child•

OP, you can laugh at them when they are wondering whether they have stocked enough iodine and calcium...

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IfIKnewThen•

This link has some good information:

http://www.canned-salmon.com/canned-salmon-faqs/

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MakeTotalDestr0iGo to r/MakeTotalDestr0i for Collapse Science•

Canned salmon is made for human consumption and therefore it is not recommended to regularly feed to your pets. Cats and in most cases dogs are much smaller than humans and many of the allowable product FDA or CFIA regulations, for example mercury in canned fish products, will be too high for a pet.

from that link. wtf. too much mercury for pets but ok for humans

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stumo•

Mercury affects you based on body weight.

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MakeTotalDestr0iGo to r/MakeTotalDestr0i for Collapse Science•

i was eating a lot of fish and only weigh 127 pounds. less than some dogs.

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stumo•

Then yes, that would make a difference. Me, I'm about twice that, so I can eat a lot of fish, I guess.

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[deleted]•

Well it actually effects you exactly the same. You just have more neurons to kill off than your shitzu.

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MakeTotalDestr0iGo to r/MakeTotalDestr0i for Collapse Science•

i love salmon i was going to stock up canned fish but haven't noticed it being cheaper. how much is it where you are?

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bitshifterOP•

It fluctuates a lot, but right now it's a 4 pack of 213g size cans for $11.60 at costco (wild sockeye). I've seen it close to $20 depending on the season

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morejesusish•

As long as you already have something like half a ton of dried grains and legumes in ideal storage environment, then Id say why not buy a few cases of salmon.

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DoomPaDeeDee•

If you are worried about mercury then you can get canned chicken. It is good quality but is fairly mild in flavor.

http://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature%E2%84%A2-Premium-Chunk-Chicken-Breast-12.5oz-24-pack.product.100099423.html

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supersonic3974•

How long does it keep?

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DoomPaDeeDee•

It has a "best by" date three years out. Not sure how long it would be safe but it would be many more years if the can were intact.

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