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Tuirseach Axeman Potential BUG

Was just playing today and was matched against a Tuirseach Axeman SK deck.

Well, I have coral and dimeritium. So I thought, easy peasy. And BAM! got mindblown. Don't know if it's a bug or intended but I just couldn't reset the Axeman's stats.

First, let's review the description in Tuirseach axeman:

"Gain 2 strength whenever another unit on your side is weakened"

The situation:

Round three, opponenent has 3 axeman's, 1 Freya and 2 An Craite Warriors.

My understanding:

First attempt I used coral, just thought it would work as Sigrdrifa, when you resurrect her and 3 queensguard she gets buffed but the weather effect acts later, so she just go to 1. That just didn't happen to axeman, but okay, I can see that he gains 2 str whenever a unit loses stats, so with coral or any weathers I can understand.

After the failed attempt with coral I used Harald's ability to kill the priestess, so he get's -1 at the end. Since I was already planning on using my dimeritium bomb. So after i used dimeritium bomb he just went from three 21 stats axeman to three 8 stats axeman. As description says he gets +2 for any weakened unit, but i didn't weakened any unit, all did was reset them to standard stats with db. Why the hell did the axemans get +4 buff if i just reseted them to standard stats? I didn't weakened them.

Is this really intended or it's a bug? Because when you use dimeritium bomb you don't weaken the unit, you just reset it to it's standard stats. THAT I can't understand.

TL;DR:

Tuirseach Axeman gets buffed when you use dimeritium bomb, since dimeritium bomb don't weakens any unit it resets them to standard stats, is that correct?

Posted Jan 10, 2017, 9:19 PM UTC · edited

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GioDaddy69•

The way I believe D. Bomb is programmed. the D. Bomb checks what the original strength the unit is. The unit is then damaged to become equal to its original strength.

It makes sense since the bug also applies to [[Foglet]]. When a Foglet has quenn applied and fog is removed from the field, the Foglet stays. This is because the game checks what strength the Foglet is and then applies that much damage to it. Since quenn is applied the shield is removed and the Foglet stays.

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MargraveDeChiendent•

Mechanically, there probably simply isn't any difference in the engine between weakening and resetting stats. If a unit is buffed by 7, with its power displayed in green to indicate that it is buffed, and you alzur's thunder it, the power goes back to being displayed in white, to indicate that it is back to base strength. Dimeritium bomb probably works that way as well; it just damages for the exact value needed for the unit to be back to base strength.

Then, as you indicate yourself, they just get buffed for each other unit being simultaneously debuffed. Weird interaction, but I hope it stays this way because those axemen don't exactly need a nerf.

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MattSenderlingSkellige•

Don't forget Skellige naturally increases the base strength of units with their faction ability and have cards that increase base strength of units as well

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_sWINOP•

None axeman he had in play received any base str buff. The three axeman just had 7 greenysh stats that indicate that they were buffed by plus stat and not base stat.

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MattSenderlingSkellige•

Ah, I see what happened now. I actually don't know if it's intended or not but taking the 21 strength Axemen and using dimiritium on them counted as weakening them since their base strength is less than 21. I've used that to my advantage several times when playing with Axemen

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KenjiJUNorthern Realms•

Yea, I've experienced this one time and I think it lost me the game. Opponent's stayed or got rebuffed up to the 20's. 8.33

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PasstequeSkellige•

As other people already said: weakened means losing strength. Whatever strength that is: base, buffed, already weakened. So yeah, the Axemans got reset to base strength so 4 and received +2 per other Axemans who got weakened, So 8. This is not "8.33" as KenjiJU sarcasticly said. It has always been there and I believe it is completely meant.

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