What is the work environment like in RF/Communications?

I'm going into electrical engineering mainly out of interest in the above specializations. The issue is that I've never really known what the day-to-day routine of someone working these jobs is. I know most engineers, regardless of being mechanical, electrical, etc..., dwell in your typical office space in front of a computer. I always imagined that RF and Comms would be a little different from the norm, that I'd be able to find a job out in the middle of nowhere doing work in a remote facility that handles satellite communications or radio transmissions.

What I'm starting to get worried about is that maybe I'm going into RF design and DSP with the wrong expectations, and that the jobs I'm interested in are mainly delegated to technologists and technicians. I think going above and beyond to learn the why as much as the how is what attracts me to engineering, but at the same time I loathe the office environment. Being stuck in places like Dallas or Kansas City with your standard office workplace and the accompanying politics just sounds awful.

If I'm wrong about commercial RF/Comms/DSP, are any of the military private contractors any better? I always got a little jelly thinking of all the experienced techies that finished their enlistment swooping into private sector jobs with contractors like L3 or Lockheed in remote facilities. It isn't an accurate image I imagine, but it seems like techs do all the work at those type of facilities.

Posted Jan 11, 2017, 1:43 PM UTC

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RFtinkerer•

I've been in the field for around 17 years at different places. It depends on the job. I never liked being stuck behind a computer a lot. I interned in a few positions; test engineering, digital IC design, and RF board level. Liked RF board level the best. Designing RF ICs was behind a computer a lot (bleh). Simulate the crap out of it, spin a mask set for thousands, wait and find out you should have done this instead of that. Have to wait until the next spin to find out if you did it right. Now I'm in avionics and most of my work is board level, fixing problems requires a soldering iron and experimentation. Plenty of time behind a computer, plenty of time on the bench soldering discretes. Tons of time testing, writing reports! :)

Anyway, I like it. Embedded software will get you the jobs, though. It's more difficult for RF. But then again, more job security in RF. Management thinks I perform black magic and that I'm hard to replace. That's a good thing.

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EncryptedCrunchwrapOP•

Thanks for the info! Looks like I'll give a look at what I can do to approach RF board work in the future. Is job security decent then? I knew that RF/Analog stuff was fuzz to those not in the know, but I'm surprised it is still valued knowledge. I've gotten the impression whatever isn't being done as embedded work is slipping in terms of job security.

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TheSiegeEngine•

I spent a year doing RF analysis for the navy on their antennas and such so I can give you my perspective. I hated it. I was a DoD contractor and for most of the year I would spend time looking at a single excel spreadsheet and writing reports on how certain systems interacted. Toward the end of the year I was moved to a different team which was more focused on testing.

This was better as you got to travel to different ports and such and spend time actually on ships collecting data. For these we had to write test reports and test procedures. I enjoyed this work more so, but by this point I had already decided to move to a different field.

I also found out that this type of work experience wasn't really useful anywhere else in many other type of jobs so keep that in mind. The work also pretty focused, so I didn't have much to show for my time working there on my resume unfortunately.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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badumudab•

You could cross post to r/rfelectronics.

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confusedaerospaceguyspacecraft structural dynamics•

usually the RF design is done in an office building on a campus where satellites and other devices that make use of RF are made. i know boeing and northrop grumman have their space divisions in los angeles, raytheon has one in mckinney (suburb of dallas), and lockheed has ones in denver, new jersey, etc. not remote places at all.

the technologists and technicians that attach the RF devices made by engineers onto spacecraft are located in the same place, i would assume. if you had an electrical engineering degree going for technicians jobs you are severely underselling your degree and potential

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EncryptedCrunchwrapOP•

Yeah, it'd be bad to damage my professional development by doing techie work with an EE degree. Issue is that I don't want to be a computer jockey forever......

Denver doesn't sound so bad, anywhere cold really is fine. Minneapolis, Seattle and Denver all sound nice in regards to big cities. Not remote, but the next best thing for me is somewhere cold. I don't think I could do Dallas or LA, so I guess that narrows things down for me. As stupid as it sounds, warm weather is like anthrax to me, just bad feels all around.

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confusedaerospaceguyspacecraft structural dynamics•

well, when you go to RF design meetings and RF package physical and electrical tests, you arent at a computer i suppose. but theres no escaping from the office life in this industry

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