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ReLiC71

[Off-topic] This Kiwi is dead! I 'E as shuffled off 'is mortal coil.

MISC.

I just saw that Kiwi Farms is gone, apparently due to doxing of Joshua Moon's^^1 family. Given our history of being associated with them^^2, I thought it was tangentially relevant to KiA.

This is what you get if you go there now.

^^1 I dunno if he's better known by a pseudonym. I'm not a KFer.

^^2 edit: Being associated with by other people, not associating with. Just like Autism is associated with vaccines

Posted Jan 24, 2017, 11:35 AM UTC · edited

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Jack-BrowserMod•

OP, just so you are aware - we actively banned every Kiwi that took part in the half-assed false flag against KiA/gg. So no, not associated with us at all.

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ReLiC71OP•

Associated with us by other people; not that we associated with them.

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mcantrell•

Would it be possible to summarize what they tried to pull on KIA and GamerGate? False flagging?

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Jack-BrowserMod•

It's been a while, but thanks to our very own u/GethN7 I can give you some more context. Taken from this essay´:

"Contrary to what a bunch of imbeciles believe, they don’t really support GamerGate. In Dungeons and Dragons terms, as a WHOLE, they are Chaotic Neutral, merely seeking to get some laughs at foolish people, regardless of ideology or circumstance.

Yes, they DO laugh at a bunch of “lolcows” who oppose GamerGate, but that’s because they have, as they put it, found more lolcows on that side to laugh at. They do have a few idiots who support GamerGate they laugh at (including Vordrak/Matthew Hopkins), but in the end, they are opportunists, seeking to laugh at anyone who does stupid shit in public.

They recently established a “GamerGate” subforum and even changed their logo to “GamerGate Farms”, but it’s a farce to piss off groups like r/KotakuInAction who have developed an aversion to them since they get blamed for what the Kiwi Farms and other groups like /cow/, /baphomet/, ED, and so on do.

The actual forum reads like a massive parody of GamerGate supporters that is so ridiculously over the top any idiot can tell it’s a massive joke, and any fool who takes it seriously….well, do yourself a favor and quit huffing glue, they are bullshiting, and if they made you mad, congrats, you’re just another lolcow to be milked by them, and I don’t pity anyone stupid enough to fall for their flagrantly transparent ruse."

I'm omitting the next part that reads: "NO, THEY ARE NOT AN ANTI-GAMERGATE FALSE FLAG" since I disagree with it. The whole piece is linked above, have fun digging in.

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RCShieldBreakerKeep your Chinese cartoons away from me!•

Good riddance?

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DangerChipmunkGot noticed by the mods•

Given our history of being associated with them

ಠ_ಠ

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boommicfucker•

We are. Just not by choice.

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ReLiC71OP•

Exactly. I would have said 'history of associating with them', if that were what I'd meant.

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SupremeReader•

I'm actually surprised it ended this way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRgpbt2iZSY

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HandofBaneMODMod - Lawful Evil•

Pulling this comment for Rule 2 - every single one of those links includes either Null's phone number (likely fake, but we can't take that chance), email address, and the direct contact info for someone else at CloudVPS, which doesn't appear to be on any contact page I can find.

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mcantrell•

That's fair, I suppose. It's a tricky situation.

To summarize, without links. Vordrak has a page up talking about the shutdown on his blog. He also has an entire category dedicated to the Farms. His first post was in April of last year.

He seems to take issue with the Farms randomly targeting underaged people for harassment and trolling. While shitposting is fun and all, from a first glance it appears that Null might have taken it too far (as these groups tend to do). One example of Null's "trolling," ostensibly from an underage girl's own words:

“I remember after he found out my last name, he said that he’d show up to my house while I was at school, shoot my dad, and wait for me to get home. Then he’d subdue me, cut off each individual digit with a knife heated in hot grease so that it’d cauterize as it cut and I wouldn’t bleed out. Then he’d cut off my clitoris and my labia, and then rape my ass until I shat myself. Then he’d just leave me to starve to death or something once all my appendages and my genitals were sliced off and he’d beaten me sufficiently.”

Since Vordrak runs his site like a journalist, he considers "exposing" the Farms to be in the public interest.

The Farms and Vordrak have been going at each other for a while. The last thread Vordrak posted in KIA involved a bunch of Farms trolls running in demanding he read them some Lolicon manga.

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HandofBaneMODMod - Lawful Evil•

Pulling this comment for Rule 2 - can't link the archive directly because of Null's phone number/email address in it.

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ReLiC71OP•

It's linked in the last sentence, from the word 'This'.

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SixtyFourssecret mod?•

I said this before and I'll say it again. I'm glad Kiwi Farms is shutting down.

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HandofBaneMODMod - Lawful Evil•

Your post has been removed for the following reason(s):

Removing this because you can't have that archive up there, thanks to sitewide rules on personal info. You can replace it with an edited screencap taking out the phone number and email address, reply to this comment, and I'll reapprove it. Also shame on u/Jack-Browser for not catching it earlier, I explicitly pointed that out in modchat when this was first posted a day or two ago.

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Jack-BrowserMod•

Fuck me, you are right :(

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ReLiC71OP•

Just the bit under the signature, right? I figured it was okay because he put them there himself, so they're kinda public knowledge now. No matter. They're not really relevant. It's fixed.

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HandofBaneMod - Lawful Evil•

That works, thanks. Reapproved the OP.

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mnemosyne-0001•

Archive links for this discussion:

I am Mnemosyne reborn. I was told there would be cake. ^^^/r/botsrights

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dingoperson2•

Threats and harassment birth the new world.

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MidasVirago•

What happened now? Who doxxed who?

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SupremeReader•

Apparently Vordrak harrassed Null's mom until he made her fired, resulting in her ordering Null to SHUT THAT GODDAMN THING OFF.

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mcantrell•

Here's a quote from one of Null's targets, an underage girl from Blockland:

“I remember after he found out my last name, he said that he’d show up to my house while I was at school, shoot my dad, and wait for me to get home. Then he’d subdue me, cut off each individual digit with a knife heated in hot grease so that it’d cauterize as it cut and I wouldn’t bleed out. Then he’d cut off my clitoris and my labia, and then rape my ass until I shat myself. Then he’d just leave me to starve to death or something once all my appendages and my genitals were sliced off and he’d beaten me sufficiently.”

So, from what I understand some Transgender activist (I hesitate to say SJW, based on not knowing anything about her) found out where Null lived and visited him to discuss how his trolling was harming people. He hid in the toilet and had his mother -- who is also a member of Kiwi Farms -- answer the door for him.

Then he was brought on Dick Masterson's show to shittalk Maddox, who had a falling out with Masterson, where Null relayed some discussion about how his mother had slurred the activist after she visited with hate speech.

Now, here's the fun thing. Null's mom's account on the farms? She didn't use a handle. She used her real name. And with Null saying on a podcast that his mother had some hateful shit to say about an activist, well, someone (apparently not Vordrak) sent both that information -- that his mother is a member of a harassment forum, and her son had gone on the record about her bigotry -- to her boss.

Here's where it gets better. Guess who apparently had a hand in all this?

#Baphomet.

The lulz giveth, the lulz taketh away.

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