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r/deadbydaylight•
SaveusAlex

Rank 1 Killer that can't seem to break Rank 20 Survivor.

So, I've spent the last week or two going from Rank 20 -> Rank 1 as Michael Myers after a solid 4 month hiatus from the game. Now that I've accomplished that I've been dabbling into Survivor again but I just can't seem to get the hang of it. I know high level survivor play just because I've been killing them for the last little bit and have been observing what people at higher ranks do.

I Survive most of my matches, I save my teammates, I start 2 or 3 generators, if not more per game yet I can't seem to break out of Rank 20. I still have the odd match where I die rather quick here and there but I survive or at least do a good portion of things most matches and am mainly greeted to either the safety pip or none at all. Every now and then I'll get a solid 19-20k point match but that's in between a bunch of 6-8k matches. As a survivor what are the bare minimum things I should be looking to do? I should also mention I strictly solo queue in this game which probably hurts me a bit.

Also, what's the best way to escape from a killer in a chase? As a killer the ones that got away from me, I don't even know how which is why they got away and as a survivor I struggle to get away when I'm found. I know if I run, I leave scratches but if I walk I'm an easy pick. I can seemingly only get away on Haddonfield.

Posted Feb 3, 2017, 11:48 AM UTC

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paddy_bardic•

Juking a killer can be difficult (sometimes damn near impossible) depending on how skilled the Killer is. Every chase is a mind game where you are trying to predict where the Killer is going to be and the Killer is trying to predict where you are going.

The best advice I can give you is to do the following:

  • MOVE to areas that have pallets and windows. Slowing your Killer to put some distance between you is the best way to escape.

  • AVOID taking routes that require you to fall, such as hills, the Asylum 2nd floor, house roofs on Haddonfield. If you do not have Balanced Landing, then you will incur a speed penalty when you hit the ground. As a killer, I love it when people take these routes because the killer has no penalty for jumping from heights.

  • SLAM Pallets on the killer to stun him. If you have a flashlight, then shine it in his eyes while he's breaking the pallet to blind him. Usually, when I do this, I sneak behind him and he loses me.

  • EXPERIMENT with different perks, such as Urban Evasion or Light Feet.

  • BREAK Line-of-sight with the killer AND CHANGE directions. If the killer thinks you are going to go one way when he loses sight of you, go in a different direction. Be unpredictable.

I hope this helps.

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SaveusAlexOP•

Your high places thing brings up something I forgot to mention. I managed to get stuck 3 times in a tree while playing, what causes this? It happened once on Asylum when I jumped out the window, I landed next to a tree and I was stuck and couldn't move away.

This also happened when I was trying to hide behind a tree on Autohaven and I think Coldwind. I hid behind the tree and when I went to move when the coast was clear, I couldn't.

With the pallet slam I can't quite get the timing. I very rarely get the stun, either I'm a second too early and there is no stun or a second too late and I end up getting stabbed as the pallet is going down.

Is there a way to make stealth games beneficial to me? That's my favorite way to play but I've noticed the games where I have been chased a few times are the only ones where I have really got enough to rank up. Is it possible to make a sneaking game work in my favor?

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paddy_bardic•

We all have been hit with a collision bug at one time or another. It hasn't happened to me in a while though.

As for making stealth games beneficial to you, there are a number of ways to do that. If you're going to play stealthy, then you are going to have to do the following things:

  • PUSH generators hard when the killer is not in your immediate vicinity.

  • CLEANSE totems (even non-Hexed ones) to get a quick and easy 400 points in Boldness.

  • BRING a toolbox and Sabotage perk to take down a few hooks. Each sabotaged hook nets 500 points in Boldness. So cleansing totems and sabotaging Hooks will increase your boldness score. I warn you though: Killers take offense to you destroying their hooks and they will probably tunnel you for it.

  • SAVE Hooked Teammates. Since, you're trying to stay stealthy because your chase / escape game is weak, this is a huge risk, especially if the Killer is camping, hard patrolling, or soft patrolling. As a Killer, I like to go after the rescuer after he unhooks, so as to "punish" him for being altruistic.

Those are just some of the ways to get points in a stealthy game. Honestly, if you want to maximize point gain in a match, generators and stuns are going to be your primary way of doing this. A pallet slam stun is 1000 points in Boldness. Blinding the killer is another few hundred points.

I used to play exclusively stealthy and avoid contact with the Killer at all costs. However, I still couldn't get beyond Rank 18 or 17, because at higher levels of play, stealthy gameplay is a risky gambit. You need to practice your juking, looping, and escapes because eventually a Killer will find you and if you can't escape, then you are fodder for the Entity.

I say this as a Killer. You will be found eventually. If you weren't found, then odds are you are not going to pip unless your teammates have been holding all of the Killer's aggro, giving you time to score points on generators, chests, hooks, and totems.

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GameOfDrogon•

One thing I can definitely recommend you don't do is pallet sliding. What do I mean by that? I mean standing at a thrown down pallet and constantly sliding back and forth across it. It's really funny for the killer and it's really not recommended that survivors do it!

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Reshaos•

This. I would avoid this especially on unsafe pallets until you get really good. I mostly do it out of bm.

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Kotau•

The main difference in rank 5-1 survivors is that they've learned how to juke or avoid killers. There really is no way you're de-piping ever if you're staying alive for a lenghty portion of the game, as long as you keep going for saves/heals and keep repairing gens.

So, basically, try to practice your ability to escape from the killer. Pallet stuns, how to use a flashlight, how to hide properly, etc...

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IrateWithElation•

Do generators. 5k objective and 5k survival is the easiest and most consistent method to pip. At rank 20 you'll always have a few games where you die first and your teammates would rather cleanse a totem than unhook, but these flukes will happen less and less as you rank up and get relatively more competent teams.

You will not escape from a decent killer without Iron Will. Instead, try to make as long of a chase as possible to buy time for your teammates. Learn and practice looping pallets, using the shack/jungle gym windows, and looking over your shoulder to watch the killer's movement. Try to never use both pallets from a set or jungle gym in the same chase, and highly value the shack/cow tree pallet, particularly on desolate maps like shelter woods and rotten fields.

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Reshaos•

Very true about competent teammates, until you hit rank 1 then it is back to playing with rank 20's with maybe the occasional rank 1 teammate. At rank 1, the game expects you to be so good that you can carry a team of rank 20's against a rank 1 killer.

I even had one game where the rank 1 killer asked me after only I escaped why I didn't save my other teammates, "you're rank 1". Bruh...I tried but you would leave heart beat range of the hook, so I focused on the generators. Plus do you really expect me to be able to keep the rank 20's alive and escape? Even if I unhook them they usually fall right back on the hook anyways. The killer then stated he was rank 7 and wanted to SWF with me. No, just no.

A couple nights ago, I had another frustrating game. It was a killer that I had already played against before that night, so he already didn't like me from the previous game. Prepared to get tunneled, but that's fine since I can usually waste the killers time. I finally go down after wasting the killers time for a good amount, no generators done at all. Teammates unhook me and I immediately focus on popping some generators. I popped about 2-3 generators by myself and the killer finds me again. I immediately start looping him around the map as usual but as I am looping him around the entire map I noticed what my teammates had been doing, sabotaging the entire time! They finished all the hooks then popped a generator so one generator remained, but by then I was out of pallets and no windows to vault. So I stopped and stood there as the killer caught up and killed me. I ended the game with 21k points, no escape points obviously. My other teammates didn't even have 10k at that point. I join another game and get a friend invite from one of the previous teammates from that game who were sabotaging. Declined. Probably wanted me to SWF with them so they can sabotage freely even more...

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Ghostiar•

Oh, it's really easy.

You just must survive most of the times.

Generally, there're two ways to survive in this game.

  1. Play like a pussy. Stealth is your best friend. Teammates? Fuck teammates. They are on their own and you are not going to save them, at least if it's not absolutely safe. Generators are ready? Get the fuck out of there! Playing like that gives you pretty much at least 12-16k points every time.

Your perks: Sprint Burst, Iron will, Lightweight, Calm Spirit

  1. Play like an asshole. It's basically opposite of previous. You don't give a shit about killer, he's a slow piece of shit and you're a god of jukes. YOU ARE THE FUCKING ALPHA MALE HERE. Pallet loops and infinites are your best friends and motherfucker can't get you. You're actually ready to risk and draw killer's attention, when he's camping. Teabag him, be an agressive dick, run close, but not close enough to get a hit. This is a way, when survival is less possible, but you can get 8-20k points and you never know. And remember: know your infinite.

Your perks: Sprint Burst, Adrenaline, Decisive Strike, Self-Care.

And don't forget the most fat Aid Kit you have.

Basically, smart mix of these strategies (with a little bias in pussy gameplay) will let you survive in 7 out of 8 games or something, which is pretty much the way to up your rank, as I said before.

P.S. Oh, and a little update. Sometimes you will get fucked in 2 mins or so, just because of bad luck. It happens, just don't let this to crush your spirit.

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BigTortoise•

In the end the best way to not die is to build your survivor around not dying. Perk wise I like to go with self care, sprint burst, iron will, and adrenaline. I also like swapping self care for bond since it gives me the benefit of being able to join my team and maybe coop a generator.

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Rezingreenbowl•

We're literally in the same boat man. I have 60+ hours on MM, and I'm just getting into survivor to break the monotony. I'm having the hardest time getting the hang of it.

One thing I have been doing though is hiding in plain sight. If I blow a gen and I hear the killer coming I'll just run to a corner a bit away from the gen and duck down with my head toward the corner. 9/10 the killer will just run right by me.

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