Gen 2 release - centralized facts
There's a lot of threads about every single change brought by the gen 2 update, so to keep things clear I'll try to centralize the informations here and will edit the post as new information comes along.
#Stats
Movesets
Gen 1 movesets have been rebalanced. Some moves like Hyper Beam got their damage upped from 120 to 150. Dragon Claw became a 3-bar move. Some quick moves like Dragon Breath or Water Gun are much slower than before. Dragon Breath is only a little bit faster then Steel Wing now (retroactive change).
Also, all moves are 1,2 or 3 bar now, there isn't 4 or 5 bar moves anymore. the dreaded Twister is now a 3-bar move (retroactive change).
More details will be revealed by the game master analysis :
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/5uit69/game_master_file_update_megathread/
Until the analysis is complete, this thread reports what has been noticed by users :
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/5uilzu/movesets_have_damage_has_been_updated/
Newly caught gen 1 pokemon can have new moves too, like Iron Tail on Dratini. Evolving an already owned gen 1 pokemon can also result in a new moveset, like getting a Dragon Rage/Outrage Gyarados from your old Magikarp.
Note: don't transfer any gen 1 pokemon until we know for sure whether they can still get all the former movesets or if some movesets have become legacy movesets.
edit: a movelist has been posted
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/5ujflu/readable_move_info_from_new_game_master/
- Alakazam can't get Psychic anymore, it's now a legacy move.
- Dragonite can't get Dragon Breath/Dragon Claw/Dragon Pulse anymore.
| Pokemon | Legacy Quick move | Legacy Charge move | New Quick move | New Charge move |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bulbasaur | ||||
| Ivysaur | ||||
| Venusaur | ||||
| Charmander | ||||
| Charmeleon | Scratch | Fire Fang | ||
| Charizard | Wing Attack, Ember | Flamethrower | Fire Spin, Air Slash | Overheat |
| Squirtle | ||||
| Wartortle | ||||
| Blastoise | ||||
| Caterpie | ||||
| Metapod | ||||
| Butterfree | Bug Bite | Struggle Bug | ||
| Weedle | ||||
| Kakuna | ||||
| Beedrill | Bug Bite | Infestation | ||
| Pidgey | ||||
| Pidgeotto | ||||
| Pidgeot | Wing Attack | Air Cutter | Air Slash | Brave Bird |
| Rattata | ||||
| Raticate | ||||
| Spearow | Twister | Sky Attack | ||
| Fearow | Twister | Sky Attack | ||
| Ekans | Gunk Shot | Poison Fang | ||
| Pikachu | Thunder | Wild Charge | ||
| Raichu | Thunder Shock | Thunder | Volt Switch | Wild Charge |
| Sandshrew | Rock Tomb | Sand Tomb | ||
| Sandshrew | ||||
| Nidoran F | ||||
| Nidorina | ||||
| Nidoqueen | ||||
| Nidoran M | ||||
| Nidorino | ||||
| Nidoking | Fury Cutter | Iron Tail | ||
| Clefairy | ||||
| Clefable | Pound | Charge Beam | ||
| Vulpix | ||||
| Ninetales | Ember | Flamethrower, Fire Blast | Fire Spin | Overheat, Solar Beam |
| Jigglypuff | Body Slam | Gyro Ball | ||
| Wigglytuff | ||||
| Zubat | Sludge Bomb | Swift | ||
| Golbat | Ominous Wind | Shadow Ball | ||
| Oddish | ||||
| Gloom | ||||
| Vileplume | ||||
| Paras | ||||
| Parasect | Bug Bite | Struggle Bug | ||
| Venonat | ||||
| Venomoth | Bug Bite | Poison Fang | Infestation | Silver Wind |
| Diggett | ||||
| Dugtrio | ||||
| Meowth | ||||
| Persian | Night Slash | Foul Play | ||
| Psyduck | ||||
| Golduck | ||||
| Mankey | ||||
| Primeape | Karate Chop | Cross Chop | Counter | Close Combat |
| Growlithe | ||||
| Arcanine | Bite | Bulldoze, Flamethrower | Snarl | Wild Charge, Crunch |
| Poliwag | ||||
| Poliwhirl | Scald | Water Pulse | ||
| Poliwrath | Mud Shot | Submission | Rock Smash | Dynamic Punch |
| Abra | Charge Beam | |||
| Kadabra | ||||
| Alakazam | Psychic, Dazzling Gleam | Futuresight, Focus Blast | ||
| Machop | Low Kick | Rock Smash | ||
| Machoke | Cross Chop | Dynamic Punch | ||
| Machamp | Karate Chop | Cross Chop, Submission, Stone Edge | Counter | Heavy Slam, Dynamic Punch, Close Combat |
| Bellsprout | ||||
| Weepinbell | Razor Leaf | Bullet Seed | ||
| Victreebell | ||||
| Tentacool | ||||
| Tentacruel | ||||
| Geodude | ||||
| Graveler | Rock Slide | Rock Blast | ||
| Golem | Ancient Power | Rock Blast | ||
| Ponyta | Fire Blast | Stomp | ||
| Rapidash | Ember | Fire Spin | ||
| Slowpoke | ||||
| Slowbro | ||||
| Magnemite | ||||
| Magneton | Thunder Shock | Discharge | Charge Beam | Zap Cannon |
| Farfetch'd | Cut | Air Slash | ||
| Doduo | Swift | Brave Bird | ||
| Dodrio | Air Cutter | Brave Bird | ||
| Seel | Aqua Jet | Aurora Beam | ||
| Dewgong | Ice Shard | Aqua Jet, Icy Wind | Iron Tail | Aurora Beam, Water Pulse |
| Grimer | ||||
| Muk | Lick | Infestation | ||
| Shellder | ||||
| Cloyster | Icy Wind, Blizzard | Aurora Beam, Avalanche | ||
| Gastly | Sucker Punch | Ominous Wind | Astonish | Night Shade |
| Haunter | Lick | Shadow Ball | Astonish | Shadow Punch |
| Gengar | Shadow Claw | Dark Pulse | Hex | Focus Blast |
| Onix | Iron Head, rock Slide | Sand Tomb, Heavy Slam | ||
| Drowzee | ||||
| Hypno | Psyshock, Shadow Ball | Futuresight, Focus Blast | ||
| Krabby | ||||
| Kingler | Mud Shot | Bubble | ||
| Voltorb | Signal Beam | Gyro Ball | ||
| Electrode | Tackle | Volt Switch | ||
| Exeggcute | Bullet Seed | |||
| Exeggutor | Zen Headbutt, Confusion | Bullet Seed, Extrasensory | ||
| Cubone | ||||
| Marowak | ||||
| Hitmonlee | Brick Break | Close Combat | ||
| Hitmonchan | Rock Smash | Brick Break | Counter | Close Combat |
| Lickitung | ||||
| Koffing | Infestation | |||
| Weezing | Infestation | |||
| Rhyhorn | ||||
| Rhydon | ||||
| Chansey | ||||
| Tangela | Power Whip | Infestation | Grass Knot | |
| Kangaskhan | Brick Break, Stomp | Crunch, Outrage | ||
| Horsea | ||||
| Seadra | Blizzard | Aurora Beam | ||
| Goldeen | ||||
| Seaking | Icy Wind, Drill Run | Ice Beam, Water Pulse | ||
| Staryu | ||||
| Starmie | Tackle | Hidden Power | ||
| Mr Mime | ||||
| Scyther | Steel Wing | Bug Buzz | Air Slash | Aerial Ace |
| Jynx | Pound | Ice Punch | Confusion | Avalanche |
| Electabuzz | ||||
| Magmar | ||||
| Pinsir | Fury Cutter | Submission | Bug Bite | Close Combat |
| Tauros | ||||
| Magikarp | ||||
| Gyarados | Twister, Dragon Pulse | Dragon Tail | Crunch, Outrage | |
| Lapras | Ice Shard | Dragon Pulse | Water Gun | Hydro Pump |
| Ditto | ||||
| Eevee | Body Slam | |||
| Vaporeon | ||||
| Jolteon | Volt Switch | |||
| Flareon | Heat wave | Fire Spin | Overheat | |
| Porygon | Tackle, Zen Headbutt | Discharge, Psybeam, Signal Beam | Hidden Power, Charge Beam | solar Beam, Hyperbeam, Zap Cannon |
| Omanyte | Brine, Rock Tomb | Bubble Beam, Rock Blast | ||
| Omastar | Rock Slide | Rock Blast | ||
| Kabuto | ||||
| Kabutops | Fury Cutter | Rock Smash | ||
| Aerodactyl | ||||
| Snorlax | Body Slam | Heavy Slam | ||
| Articuno | ||||
| Zapdos | Thunder Shock | Discharge | Charge Beam | Zap Cannon |
| Moltres | Ember | Flamethrower | Fire Spin | Overheat |
| Dratini | Iron Tail | |||
| Dragonair | iron Tail | |||
| Dragonite | Dragon Breath | Dragon Pulse , Dragon Claw | Dragon Tail | Hurricane, Outrage |
| Mewtwo | Focus Blast | |||
| Mew | Dragon Pulse | Focus Blast |
Snorlax note: There has been reports of people thinking Earthquake is hard t o dodge now and that the yellow flash ins't here anymore. It's still here, and is actually easier to dodge. Previously the yellow flash was happening ~0.5 second after the "Snorlax used Earthquake" message, but it now happens 1.5-2s later, when you see rocks falling from the sky. Like Blizzard, it's a very late dodge.
CP
Lapras as been nerfed. Mine went from 2834CP to 2470CP. We knew that Lapras had been left untouched by the end of november stat rebalance and that the new conversion formula was supposed to nerf him. He unfortunately got this overdue change.
Other pokemon CP seem untouched.
#Spawns
Nests
Gen 1 nests are currently disabled. They have been replaced by a variety of gen 1-2 pokemon.
It rather seem that some nests were disabled, some other became gen 2 pokemon nests, other turned into gen 1 pokemon nests, so it's more a standard nest migration.
There was also a spawn point reshuffle (location/time), as it usually happens when Niantic touches nests.
Ditto
Ditto has been reported to come out of some gen 2 pokemon. Hoothoot and Sentret seem confirmed so far.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/5uilwd/my_first_hoothoot_was_a_ditto_what_other_new/
Togetic, Togepi, babies
Togetic confirmed to spawn in the wild. Babies are also out there.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/5uiz2c/new_info_togetic_in_the_wild/
#Catch
New catch bonus
You get a 50XP bonus if you catch a pokemon in only one throw. Completely missing the pokemon with your first ball still counts as a throw, so no bonus in that case.
Critical catch
Critical catches have been implemented. You know it's a critical catch when the ball immediatly drops on the ground after hitting the pokemon and has 4 rays of light leaving upwards in a zig zag motion.
New pokemon movement on catch screen
Pokemon move in new ways during the catch sequence. Ledyba will move in a "V" motion, while Qwilfish will move sideways form left to right, with their catch circles following them. Other users in this same thread also report new movements for gen 1 pokemon like Venonat or Abra.
Berries
You can only use 1 berry at a time on a pokemon. So no, you can't use a razz + a nanab on a pokemon. The active berry is used as an icon on the pokemon. Once the icon disappear, on a failed catch attempt, you can use an another berry.
#Candies/Evolutions
Candies
You can now get 5 candies and 300 stardust when catching a stage 1 evolution. 10 candies for a stage 2 evolution. Babies don't count as stages, so catching a Jynx qill give 3 candies only.
Hitmon candies have been unified into Tyorgue candies.
Buddy candies
Buddy candies distances have been updated. Gloom reported as 1 (a bug apparently, Gloom got reverted to 3). Togepi distance still changed from 5km to 3km.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/5uikjf/new_distances_for_gen_1/
Evolution items
Evolution items are required for some evolutions such as Scyther->Scyzor (Metal coat). Evolution items come out of pokestops and are consumed once used. For pokemon with branched evolutions such as Slowpoke or Gloom, you get 2 evolution buttons, allowing you to choose with one you want. Eevees only have one button.
Candies costs and items required :
An evolution made with an item grants 1000XP instead of 500XP.
Umbreon / Espeon
Naming a Eevee Sakura will give an Espeon on evolution. Tamao will give Umbreon. This time we know better than at the Rainer/Sparky/Pyro time, so use your 1-use name wisely on a high IV pokemon.
Nobody has managed to get an Umbreon/Espeon through the normal evolution process yet (no nickname). Might have some hidden condition (or a bug).
edit: Research is going on, and it seems almost certain now that you need to buddy an Eevee for 10km and then he'll evolve either into Umbreon (night) or Espeon (day) depending on your local daytime. You need to still have the Eevee as a buddy when evolving.
Costs adjustments
Zubat only needs 25 candies to evolve to Golbat now (was 50 candies before). Horsea only needs 25 candies to evolve to Seadra.
#Other changes
Medals
The Johto medal and Delinquent medal (Dark type) have been added.
Regionals
No exclusive regional 100% confirmed yet.
Heracross is suspected to be a South America / Center America exclusive. Doesn't seem to spawn anywhere else.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/5ujl9b/heracross_in_north_america/
Eggs
Gen 2 pokemon have been added to the egg pool.
Level up bonuses
X15 Nanab berries at level 31, X20 Nanab Berry at level 35. Probably changed for all levels.
Fainted pokemon
Fainted pokemon have all been revived.
Buyable items
As expected with the new avatar customization options implemented, you can now buy additional clothes in the avatar customization screen.
Posted Feb 16, 2017, 11:59 PM UTC · edited