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[Warhammer] Kemmler horde faction, long read but paragraphed and well thought out (bare with me <3)

So i was watching the spotlight on Isabella and saw how Vladdy and Izzy are now their own separate faction and while Darren went through her talent tree it got me thinking...

Now i know Ive seen a similar idea in a few posts but nothing all that interesting, untill now while walking home from work i was musing on the idea again of kemmler being his own sub faction (of the Vampire counts ofc)with talents and a play style that would lend its self much better to his themes. (and to their credit i feel CA are doing the best job ive seen yet to keeping the game lore friendly to both the universe and the table top that ive seen in a warhammer game).

Like Izzy he could have talents that would support his play style such as buffs for chaff units like skeles and zombies (think the Oda clan from shogun 2) and as the defacto faction leader of his horde campaign buffs could be actually decent rather than having to be toned down so as to now outshine the likes of Manny, for example faction wide reductions in upkeep to chaff units and a minus cost to raise dead as core concepts for faction bonuses with percentages to be tweaked as to make it ballenced.

The second legendary Lord could actually be krell and provide buffs to himself and Kemmler when on the same battle field, krell in the lore has been shown to lead armies to one degree or another so this isn't too far a stretch and hell other than Vlad and Izzy i cant think of a more iconic duo in Warhammer outside of those two dawi lads who sometimes hang out with Grombrindal. (who's names escape me right now).

As for making the faction unique (bare with me on these, some of these ideas are a little out there), i would propose his faction would be unable to recruit vampire lords and vampire hero's or vampire units such as vargulfs and vrghists and blood knights, but have tech tree buffs to hex/cairn wraits etc (but still have stuff like bats n wolfs) and other ethereal units to make up for the lack power lost to your armys, and in return have his master necromancers share Kemmlers talent tree that support the Chaff mainline play style but have Kemmler have some innate ability just to separate him from his necro peers say some AoE buff for movement speed (ill have a better think on this but im very welcome to suggestions),

Another way to keep the faction unique would be the inability to recruit grave guard (lore wise they guard the keeps of vampire lords so this would make some sense) but as a trade off a faction exclusive unit of spirit hosts, these would be same unit size or slightly less as GG to keep it balanced due to their ethereal nature (or more, im sure a nice size could be found with some play testing or some such) and again these would make sense due to Kemmlers habit of abusing cairn stones (more on that later).

Like the beast men instead of claiming settlments he could leave large cairn stone grave sites from which to generate dark magic and bodies (to help with the raise dead mechanic which would fit nicely) but you would need to upgrade said stone in order to get a hold of the ethereal units such as the GG replacement spirit hosts.

Now I know what your thinking (would'nt all this ethereal love be fairly hard to deal with), well since the replenishment cap came in ethereal units such as the cairn/hex wraiths arnt anywhere near as rediculous as they used to be and with alot of factions now getting magic attack units it shouldn't get too out of hand (I could ofc be very wrong).

His start pos could actually be in the mountains to the south of britionia, could have it tie into krell... say you need to build a lvl2 cairn stone in the province the tomb blade mission is in, you could have one of his campaign objectives be crush bitonia.

Now lacking some of the units the main VC faction has access to would mean you would have to play smart as losing your lords would hurt you more than it usually would.

I plan on coming back to this and would love to hear peoples take on this idea and would love suggestions, my self and a few friends would personally pay good money to see such a thing actually happen (ofc i know its largely a pipe dream, but i could hope someone at CA is already working on this but then clearly Im a mad man)

Cheers for reading this far if ye did, enjoy your day =D.

Posted Feb 17, 2017, 3:55 AM UTC · edited

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