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creatiff

Awesome game but--, random RANT warning

  • I just finished my first playthrough, just a casual, but i played more than half the game by muscle memory. I rarely had to strategically work my way through certain areas, to be honest, not even once i think. Enemy diversity is very thin and they are very predictable, its a rinse and repeat pattern through every mission..

  • I beat half of the bosses on the first try--plus, without realizing some times that i was starting the boss. So no preparation at all, why? Too much stuff is OP to avoid it! Almost everything magic is OP, carnage, sloth, defense reduc, titan, whatever. Its all OP. It simply needs hard nerfs.

  • Guardian spirit system. The spirit stones giving you instant full gauge with some spirits is ridiculous. It needs to go, gauges such as these need to be carefully triggered, like basically any other game that uses such a system.

  • Storage system, needs to go. You NEED to decide to use stuff, and then again, NOT to use it. How and when do i use my items needs to be part of the game, the storage system ruins it. And the latest patch notes even state that stuff like arrows is also going to storage now.

  • Too many items that save you from hard times. Oh shit, i died in a horrible spot, gonna be sweaty getting back to my corpse. Oh wait, lets use one of these 30 branches that gets my spirit back to me..

  • Loot. Everything loot related, luck, drop rates, item rarity, its all useless. Just farm some player corpses for 10 mins every 10 levels for a full purple item set, which usually are from a higher level also.

  • Twilight missions. Barely did any, because one of them always was 50 levels below, and the other 50 levels higher. Cool.

Just how i felt, please dont rektify me.

Posted Feb 24, 2017, 12:23 PM UTC

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Deatsu•

Will adress some but not all points.

Enemy variety is shit. It's the most criticized aspect of the game. We can all agree with this one.

You dont have to use op magic/ninjutsu, the same way you dont need to Iai quickdraw into final blow, its there cause it creates a lot of diversity in builds, ways to build damage and ways to scale into late game.

You dont have to use your living weapon, its a single player (mostly) game, its not OP, depending on the build/guardian you use it will empty your bar after taking 2~3 hits, obviously you could build around it, but again, it just adds diversity and ways to farm/grind/scale into endgame.

Not having storage in a loot based game. You are insane, seriously.

I never needed to use Summonner's candle to be completely honest, I have faith in my corpse run skills, so, its there to help bad/casual/whatever players, they are scarce enough.

Wrong. Loot and everything loot related is incredible useful since you cant farm perfect rolled gear from revenants, you will need smithing texts, gold, materials, etc.

Twilight Missions, albeit weakly balanced for W:Samurai, they all get higher levels in W:Strong, so I kinda agree with you.

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fullm3talzombi3•

Loot is literally one of the top reasons I love this game. I hardly ever farm revenants mostly cause they're all wearing Red Demon and that's boring as hell. I love grinding out loot and gear but it's probably cause I played games like Borderlands and Diablo obsessively when they came out

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clubdon•

Always with the red demon armor. I've dismantled a bajillion sets

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Gawidia•

Totally valid points, we just differ on the impact.

I never once had a problem with the lack of enemy variety. Really don't care.

First try bosses, depends on skill level, i know i didn't but i also played "non op builds".

Sloth makes the game boring, carnage needs a more severe downside for the amazing buff it gives, defense reduction is way to effective on bosses.

I play through avoiding all of those now and the game feels much better, closer to what it should be (in my oppinion)

I agree on the storage, it's nice but some items like candles are way to common.

Loot being useless is absolutely not true though once you reach NG+. Revenant are basically for crafting mats only then.

The best Accessories and stat combinations have to be found / crafted.

Twilight missions are fun and have higher droprate. The level difference means nothing.

NG+ i was usually 100 or more levels below the missions.

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DCmantommy72•

Half the bosses on one try is pretty damn good, your in the minority in that regard lol. Hino-Enma could not be one of them I assume? Took me 20 trys to finally get her timing down.

I 100% agree on OP magic like Sloth. It was taken a bit too far and made way to powerful, if it didn't effect bosses, it would be fine nobody would care, but seeing as bosses drop the best loot, and by using Sloth you can kill any boss very easily, it drags the game down as a whole.

Dude, loots awesome comon. We all love LOOT.

As for the Guardian Spirts, personally, I didn't really use it that often during my playthrough, saved it mainly for bosses, even then sometimes I'd get caught in a combo and lose it instantly, I will say, those constant living weapon builds should be much harder to do, or not even able to do. For the same reasons as Sloth. ..Just my two cents on your two cents.

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creatiffOP•

Had to look up the name ;) She was actually easy for me because at that point i had just soul matched the deluxe edition set and weapon, made the game rly boring untill the next area, plus i was already aware of sloth.

I guess the ones that took me the most tries was the spider boss and giant blob, since i have no patience.. And the raven tengus, they were basically more annoying than most bosses since i didnt want to burn a gauge on them instinctively

Biggest joke was white tiger, died in one spirit gauge use.

Dont get me wrong i love loot too, but its silly that farming revenants for 10 mins give u the best possible loot you can get at that point. But i didnt try NG+ yet so well see how that goes

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clubdon•

So far in ng+ they drop crap. Good for crafting goods but crap. And I think you'll find the difficulty spike more along what you're hoping for. I was anti sloth through ng but in ng+ I find myself using it and still failing a good bit lol. Ng+ is like "welcome to nioh, bitch. hope you enjoyed the pregame"

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