Trial 10: Bloody Moon Megathread

JP Megathread

#Bloody Moon Trial Info

Reward: グローリーオブイヴィル Glory of Evil [Rod] +92 ATK, +120 MAG

Mission Clear: 100 Lapis

Summon Eidolon: 10% Trust Moogle

No Items: Staff Mastery (+50% SPR w/ Staff)

Deal Ice/Earth/Dark/Light Damage: Lunatic Sabat [Materia] ルナティックサバト (225% Magic ST +50% SPR Ignore & -35% All Ele Resists debuff for three turns [60MP])

##Tips

  • Libra
  • 100% Physical Damage Resist
  • Mobs (Apostles) have +200% resist for their respective elements
  • Mobs have -2000% resist for their respective weaknesses
  • Mobs can be ATK/MAG (50% resist) debuffed. Boss cannot be debuffed
  • Gearing for SPR is more important than gearing for MAG
  • Have a unit with Safety Bit and AoE Raise
  • Don't use black magic on the boss during Phase 2. If the boss receives any magic, it'll use a strong ability. Use Magic Abilities or even Rikku's Supernova to get around this.
  • Guard every 3 turns for Phase 2 if you want to survive properly
  • Bringing every element will speed up the killing of apostles but not necessary
  • If you kill the boss while mobs are still alive they go berserk (uses Snort, revive other mobs)
  • Removed units come back only if the boss is still alive.
  • If you soft reset during Phase 1, the boss will turn around (just a visual glitch)

##Bloody Moon Stats

HP: 6000000

MP: 200000

ATK: 500

DEF: 999

MAG: 450

SPR: 150

##Apostle Stats

HP: 500000

MP: 80000

ATK: 500

DEF: 999

MAG: 400

SPR: 720

#AI (Bloody Moon)

##Phase 1

Every turn, Self 100% HP Recovery & AoE 1 Turn DEF/SPR buffs depending on the Moon Phase (5% ~ 10%)

Normal Attacks have a 15% Chance to be コメットムーン (300% ST 1 Hit Magic Attack)

Every 3 turns, the boss uses メテオムーン 500% AoE 3 Hit Magic Attack

Enters Phase 2 after you kill a mob of each element

##Phase 2

Threshold every 20%

Start of Phase 2, AoE 100% Death & Self 100% HP Recovery

250% AoE 1 Hit Magic Attack & AoE 1 Turn Debuffs depending on the Moon Phase (-10%)

Normal Attacks have a 15% Chance to be コメットムーン (300% ST 1 Hit Magic Attack)

If you use Black Magic on the boss, he will use a skill based on the Moon Phase you used it on (refer to the Moon Phase List below)

  • If you use Black Magic AND get the boss through a threshold, the boss will use that skill twice

Every 3 turns, the boss uses メテオムーン 500% AoE 3 Hit Magic Attack

  • If the 3rd turn procs as you go through a threshold, メテオムーン is used after 乱月齢 and the Moon Phase skill

At each threshold, the boss uses 乱月齢 which has a chance to use one of the following moves (Listed by Priority):

  • 20% chance Snort [ST Remove From Battle (100% Chance) for 3 turns]
  • 20% chance 500% AoE Physical Attack
  • 20% chance -75% All Stats Debuff
  • 10% chance AoE Death (100% Chance)
  • If none procs, the boss uses 500% AoE 1 Hit Magic Attack

Depending on what Moon Phase it is the turn you get the boss through a threshold, he will use a certain skill. Pay attention to the moon phase before pushing him into 80/60/40/20%

##Moon Phase List クリムゾン・ニュームーン (Crimson New Moon): 700% Phys AoE Nuke

クリムゾン・ハーフムーン (Crimson Half Moon): AoE -50% ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR for 3 turns

クリムゾン・フルムーン (Crimson Full Moon) : 300% Magic AoE

クリムゾン・クレセントムーン (Crimson Crescent Moon): Snort [ST Remove From Battle (100% Chance) for 4 turns]

  • Going through threshold at the Half Moon is recommended. When going through that threshold, have Debuff Immunity up and take the 50% 3-turn Fullbreak.
  • If you're going through the threshold at the Crimson Full Moon, beef up your SPR and take the 300% MAG Nuke
  • Do not go through the threshold on Crimson New Moon unless you are confident your party can take a 700% Phys AOE Nuke
  • If you're feeling lucky you can just let him remove a unit from battle for 3 turns instead under Crimson Crescent Moon; not recommended as you lose if he removes your Tank/Healer. Removed units come back only if the boss is still alive.

##Links AI: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/wiki/ai/308031000

Actual Skillset: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/wiki/ai/308031001

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqk5gPffd60

Posted Mar 1, 2017, 1:27 AM UTC · edited

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-Joud- -•

Can i just play song of time to reset to 3 days ago?

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KidneyBloodstones•

This time maybe we can play the song of double time and just.. skip the moon crashing?

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BoberochThe Bobler | Master of Guidance | 704,632,087 GL•

Everytime I see a post of yours, I keep thinking 'why is this dude getting downvoted despite making good posts?'

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-Joud- -•

If your talking about me i often get downvoted or posts deleted.

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the_ammar[jp] tilith and rem had a baby•

to anyone worrying about "OMG I HAVE NONE OF THE CHARACTERS. SUCH P2W", remember that the trial just came out and is designed for the majority of the players to beat over a couple of months. they're not released in-line with the current power curve.

take aigaion for example. at first we had only rem and riku for reraise. then we got hunter fina and ayaka. the community also found ways around not having reraise. ways to beat it with 2 hayates. with 90% provoke. etc.

trials are supposed to be hard and the game will powercreep over the months such that more and more players can beat it naturally.

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[deleted]•

To anyone worrying about "OMG I HAVE NONE OF THE CHARACTERS. SUCH P2W" you're probably a reroller.

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effielo•

http://i.imgur.com/iiI1f93.jpg

Finally done with this trial, also with mostly story/trial/event gears and minimum TMR involved. Well actually i used alot of Raid/Free character's TMR, but those tmr can be easily obtainable as long as you participle on those event. So it's actually 3 TMR - dualwield and Sara robe on friend Ayaka, and you can certainly do it without those 3 tmr.

 

Party setup i used:

http://i.imgur.com/HHRxTP3.png

Earth Veritas:

http://i.imgur.com/6TV1b3s.png

He is there for his LB, mitigation buff and break resistance buff. With this setup and Ashe's holy explosion chain, he can use LB within every 1~2 turn. I usually used his LB on meteor turn, so i dont have to defend.

 

1st Ashe: http://i.imgur.com/VEvOXSL.png

2nd Ashe: http://i.imgur.com/2ft0xWd.png

Probably Mvp for this Trial, her holy explosion basically covers: Chaining, generate LB crystal/summon crystal, doing AOE damage, Healing..all in one.

I equipped パニッシャー on one of my Ashe, thought i could use it to adjust boss/adds hp, but in the end i didnt use it at all. Should have equipped it on another character(in my case, Ayaka) to cap holy explosion chain.

 

Ramza:

http://i.imgur.com/Af3wdK1.png

As usual, mp/hp regen+100% stats buff are huge help.

Although i think he can be replaced by Blanc if you are tight with friend selection since i survived just fine without his 100% buff(replaced by 45% Mag/spr buff from Ashe, and Atk/def buff from WOL) when he was knocked out by snort.

 

WOL:

http://i.imgur.com/OhjIBYy.png

Just like robo trial, Aoe cover makes all autoattack from boss irrelevant.

 

Ayaka:

http://i.imgur.com/wfw76lx.png

Due to ashe's healing, she didn't get to do much on this trial. Mainly there to counter Aoe Death and Summon bahamut, can gear her with more mp and use パニッシャー as finisher. Probably could replace her with Rikku or Aria? Anyway, cap chain with bahamut, it speeds up the battle by alot.

 

Since genosy and other redditor already cover most of the detail, i would just give a few tips to help.

  1. Defend on every 3rd turn/Meteor turn would help alot, if you can spam Earth veritas LB(or other similar LB), then it's not necessary.

  2. You have to kill Apostles and boss altogether on the same turn, if one Apostle manage to survive, he will summon another 2 Apostles, blow out 3 of your character, and then they spam element attack like crazy...highly doubt anyone could survive that. Even if you can, you have to pray to rng god and hope they don't blow away your mp battery, dps and healer.

  3. when you are in phase 2, if you use the same combination like my team, you should wait all Apostles spawn before you start doing Holy explosion chain/aoe damage. You can heal boss/adds or use single target ability to manage their hp.

  4. If you use bahamut to cap chain, you probably want to stop using it when boss is only 30%hp left(depends on Apostles hp), if not you might end up killing boss 1st. Try to holy explosion/other aoe until everything is low enough.

 

Well, thats all...goodluck to those who still work on this trial!

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Heer0oldboy☆•

Great tips/squad explanation. Thank you!

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_Barook_•

Thanks for the detailed description. I might try that, too, as I have most of the characters. I'd have to use a friend's Ramza and use my Tilith instead of Ayaka.

How long did it take with this setup?

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effielo•

It took about one and half hour since i only spammed Ashe's chain from start to the end. Could be quicker if i adjust both Ashe's equip(with Fire rod/ice rod or Esper)a bit to speed up phase 1.

Edit: don't do that..will eventually waste more time.

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_Barook_•

I tried your variant and the party is rock-solid. I used Rikku in the slot of Ayaka. Worked out very well.

Sadly, after ~2 hours, my timing didn't work out and the main boss survived with a slither of health, getting both tanks and Ramza blown away, which was my death sentence.

How can your team deal single target magic DPS? As far as I can tell, all attacks are AoE.

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effielo•

I equipped Ashe with パニッシャー, and planned to use ソウルチャージ(an ability that based on mp) for that, but turn out i never had the chance to use it.

Anyway, I AOE'd them until those adds are all with little hp remained, then finishing off them with chain+bahamut. Perhaps i was lucky but i didn't have much trouble on the process(only killing adds twice in phase 2, and without the need to adjust their hp), it was pretty smooth run for me.

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renarsenal•

are there alternatives for ashe? i don't have ashe :| i have william, victoria, exdeath and light veritas my team right now is exdeath,wol,LV,Rikku,Ayaka

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effielo•

William/Victoria/Light Veritas, i think all those 3 could work. 2 Victoria should work the best, just need to equip someone else with Banish/Holy materia(Victoria can't equip white magic, btw can st magic trigger counter? not sure) to lower Dark Apostle's hp.

In Light Veritas case, she would need to equip Dark element weapon, so she can deal damage to Holy Apostle.

For William, just spam 32 mp ability from start to the end, or you can use quake on full moon/half moon phase to speed up thing.

Keep in mind though, with those 3 as your mage, you would want your bahamut on your tank(Wol) , ayaka/or other healer would need to cast heal pretty much every turn.

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renarsenal•

wow! thank you so much! i was trying with exdeath,wol,william,rikku,ayaka,and friend ramza ( before i read your reply ) lasting 10 hours ( with pausing the game) but dead in phase 2 when the apostles re-appeared, it appears william's magic isn't strong enough, maybe my equipment isn't so good, right now i'm aiming for noctis' ring to bolster victoria's magic.

will try with LV,WOL,victoria, rikku and ayaka for next attempts thank you so much :D

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effielo•

william's magic isn't strong enough, maybe my equipment isn't so good, right now i'm aiming for noctis' ring to bolster victoria's magic.

His 32 mp ability damage is kinda low, and couldn't really chain as well..although it's a much safer option though. But if you could afford to spam quake with 2 william(triggering boss's counter could easily wipe you) , phase 2 should be quite fast.

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renarsenal•

LV,WOL,victoria, rikku and ayaka has the best firepower i've ever tried, apostles died only in 1 turn, only the holy apostles need some time because i don't have dark elements weapon for LV. Unfortunately, at phase 2 that bloody hell moon wiped me out. damn.

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effielo•

You didn't equip your Ayaka with genji shield or safely bit?

And you need anti stats debuff for your team, if not this trial could be much much harder for you.

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KidneyBloodstones•

That's no moon..

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FFrhynne•

I've got a bad feeling about this...

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RozaliinRozalin | JP•

Just as I was about to post my guide I saw this thread so instead I'll just provide some additional tips.

With regards to killing the boss while Apostles are still alive:

  • If you don't kill them on the following turn, Bloody Moon will revive and remove party members from the battle equal to the number of Apostles still alive. Unlike the other Snort effects, this time is permanent.

With regards to phase 2:

  • You can get around the counter mechanic in phase 2 using things such as Rikku's Super Nova or Majin Fina's Dystopia, as they don't trigger the counter but still do damage.

Edit: LiLium's video for this fight, if you want to add it to the main post u/genosy. If I get around to editing mine, I'll update this again with my video as well.

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wlakizHunter Rain•

What about Trance Terra's Chaos Wave? Would that also bypass counter?

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RozaliinRozalin | JP•

Yes. Anything that isn't considered a spell and deals non-physical damage should work.

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AradoElouteJP: 978,806,331 - Aloha!•

Hey u/Rozalin , I think I am missing something on Phase 2 and maybe you can confirm this. Does Bloody Moon always debuff you with Spr and Def debuff? I let everyone die from that AoE Death, use up the reraise, then I get wrecked on turns outside of Comet Moon because he constantly put that debuff on me. Even after Res'ing everybody with Yuna, it still debuffed me. :/

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RozaliinJP | Rozalin•

It's an AoE all-stats-down debuff. I forget the timing but you either have to prevent it, remove it, or work around it.

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_Barook_•

Wait, Rikku's fixed damage is actually magic and can bypass the physical immunity, unlike Setzer?

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RozaliinRozalin | JP•

It's not magic or physical, just damage.

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genosyOPhuhu•

The video you linked doesn't show Bloody Moon reviving though.

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RozaliinRozalin | JP•

I linked that video just so you could give people a resource to check out; upon watching it fully, he doesn't... most of the JP sites mention it happening, though. /shrug

I personally wasn't able to confirm it myself since I made sure the Apostles died the same turn as Bloody Moon. Should probably ignore that part until further videos come out I'd say.

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the_ammar[jp] tilith and rem had a baby•

so how does this compared to aigaion at its release?

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RozaliinRozalin | JP•

It's more annoying, as there is a lot more you need to pay attention to.

The usual bunch of support and healers shine; Ayaka, Ramza, Rikku, etc. As for offense, Ace is a clear standout, and Majin Fina is great too, assuming her Ultima has been fully enhanced.

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the_ammar[jp] tilith and rem had a baby•

i have two majin finas but 0 mage TMs. lol. gotta grind it up

side question. how does an enhanced emperor stack up to an enhanced majin fina?

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RozaliinRozalin | JP•

Damage wise, enhanced Emperor will do significantly more damage than Majin Fina; and will be better at managing the Apostles HP in phase 2 in order to make sure they die at the same time as Bloody Moon.

The reason for using enhanced Ace or Majin Fina though is because their multi-hitting abilities/spells generate more LB stones. Ace is by far the best option though, if you can use him, since Tri-lazer won't trigger the counter in phase 2.

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fulwaterGL/JP player•

My lineup was,

  • enhanced Ace
  • enhanced WOL
  • enhanced Ramza
  • Rikku
  • Trance Terra
  • Friend Ayaka

This is an extremely challenging trial. One small mistep and it gets very difficult to get the game back under control. I highly recommend spamming non-elemental magic nukes to kill off the moon and winged skulls together during phase two. Terra was the star DPS here as she could single target cast 'Holy' on the moon to bring its HP in line with killing the skulls together.

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mirrorell•

something something complaining about magic characters being bad compared to physical characters

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Aderarch929,857,775•

This is NOT fixing mage problems. This is just rubber-banding.

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mirrorell•

This isn't even a band-aid fix.

My comment was just to highlight how Alim went to the opposite extreme by making physicals unusable in this trial.

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Aderarch929,857,775•

Yeah, that's exactly what's happening. My bad, I did not get the real point of your comment.

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MrWhiteKnightRamza: The One True Hero•

Alim HQ

Intern: Sir shall we hit the MAGpocalypse button?

Dev: Yes, It's time they learned the T R U E POWER OF MAGES !

Also, Holy Shit, so THAT'S why Emperor's enhancements came out in this last batch, they where prepping for this. LOL.

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toshisato93Clero Malsano•

Am I wrong or Ace looks great for this trial???

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NyantaTheCatSomething about burning the world•

https://i.imgur.com/sAVDWx4.jpg

Having a bare minimum of 350 SPR helps a lot. Most are geared with a bunch of free stuff (Sandy TM is super good for this). In phase 2 Sylvia's Anti-Stats Debuff, WoL Light w/ us, and Rikku's Mitigation skill were never off a turn.

On the turns that they weren't doing anything(If WoL isnt doing Light w/ Us + Arms Erasor or if Rikku isn't doing Mit Skill + Mixing) they were using Shine Wave and Super Nova to deal damage.

Make sure to kill all the Apostles + Moon on the same turn or else pray that RNG doesn't screw you over.

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Enzan220•

When i can't be bothered with Phase 2's mechanics:

https://youtu.be/ZxiNBjBMzYI

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skuldnoshinpu•

So if you don't have AoE raise and debuff immunity capabilities are you pretty much screwed? This guy sounds like a PITA.

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effielo•

You can use Araise(with doublecast) and slowly pick them up. Have to Pray to rng god though. Need saga3 king's ring to help even the odd a bit.

debuff immunity capabilities

This is pretty much true though, just found out dispellga/dispell can't target your own party..and he casted debuff every turn, i don't think you want to use Gilgamesh materia for that...

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_fulgrator_JP: Onion Knight//922,734,658•

I mean Aria, Rikku, Tilith and Ayaka have AoE Raise, so that's 2 common 4* bases who have other uses within them.

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skuldnoshinpu•

Right and I have none of those characters, which is why I asked 'if you don't have AoE Raise are you screwed'. Sounds like this'll have to wait until I get one of those characters.

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_fulgrator_JP: Onion Knight//922,734,658•

Oh that's true >_>

Sorry for rushing to conclusions, hope you get one of those units soon, JPFFRK god! :)

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skuldnoshinpu•

Thanks. Unlike FFRK I'm pretty close to F2P (other than buying some of the special holiday bundles) with this game, but this game is much more dependent on having specific characters than FFRK, it seems. Sad I missed Rikku and Ayaka both.

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GilthuMy 2 DKC are named Noctis and Olive, don't ask why...•

Is Lunatic Sabat a spell or skill?

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RozaliinRozalin | JP•

It's an ability.

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GilthuMy 2 DKC are named Noctis and Olive, don't ask why...•

So can't DC it, but that is still a pretty amazing ability.

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JohnnyGBHoly Ayaka Queen of all trades!•

For those perparing party setup for the challenge, you'll want somewhere around 6k-ish HP and 250-ish SPR before buffs on most/all of your party members. (how much toughness you need in order to withstand a meteo turn without blocking) I also highly recommend equipping a ST non-black magic, magic damage abiity to help even out the HP of all the enemies at the very end. Trust me, you want it pretty bad. utility and toughness is very important, even if it means sacrificing raw power as unintended deaths can lead to tremendous time loss and turn the tide against your favor in the blink of an eye

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RozaliinRozalin | JP•

While testing different setups to without using 5* bases/TMs and whatnot, I found out something interesting about the phase transition.

The phase transition is not when all 8 Apostles are killed, he transitions the turn after the dark and light Apostles die, regardless of if another is alive.

I found this out when he transitioned right after I killed the Light and Dark Apostles while still having Wind around.

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HyperionAI._.•

Finally cleared my last vortex trial.
http://imgur.com/a/w66dR

Rikku

  • Mix --> Mitigation
  • LB, tried to keep this up every 3 turns, especially between phase 1 to 2

Eiko

  • DC SPR debuff removal with Curaja
  • AoE Heal/Esper Fill
  • LB Fill Rate
  • Summon Bahamut at the end or whenever you're free

Roy

  • Singing obv

WoL

  • Rotate between AoE cover and guarding
  • 21O's TM is amazing

Ace

  • Spam Tri-Beam
  • Guard every 3 turns for the nuke

CG Sakura

  • Mitigation if Rikku fails to Mix
  • Elemental AoE depending on Apostles
  • ST Nukes to keep Moon's HP even
  • Guard every 3 turns for the nuke

I ignored all of the thresholds (each one was Snort ._.) because the message was too fast with all of the enemy skills, so couldn't tell what it was. Surprisingly I didn't have to do much reviving, since I was able to keep Rikku's LB active almost every 3 turns. You definitely want to stack as much HP/SPR as possible.

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akairyuvn•
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PlsWaiSeven•

This seems fun, cant want for GL.

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DeutscheS•

It is not fun :(

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PlsWaiSeven•

Thats why I can't wait!

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DeutscheS•

Aigaion is fun though!

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PlsWaiSeven•

Which one is that?

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[deleted]•

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TemporaMorasI look stupid but everybody like me•

The 10% chance to 100% AOE death is kind of a stupid move tbh, force player to have an AOE revive, but I guess it's less 'brute force' than trial 9

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exemplar_knightMoogle•

Snort is also a pain TBH, and if by chance he gets your tank you are screwed for 3 turns without a tank, even worse if it got your healer.

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TemporaMorasI look stupid but everybody like me•

At least they come back, could be worth haha.

Still this trial looks better (less stupid if you prefer) than the last one, good thing.

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nekoramzaCatgirls make the best waifus•

Snort only lasts for 3 turns instead of permanently on this fight?

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RozaliinRozalin | JP•

All of the ST Snorts are 3 turns; however, the Snort that hits if you have Apostles left up after killing Bloody Moon and fail to kill them the following turn, is permanent.

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exemplar_knightMoogle•

Yes 3 turns only.

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nekoramzaCatgirls make the best waifus•

Is Brachiosaur/Typhon like this now? I'm pretty sure the dino was permanent when I fought him.

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Naztahttp://i.imgur.com/LLx1puA.png•

Brach is perm.
Bloody Moon has a 4 Turn Snort and a 3 Turn Snort.

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exemplar_knightMoogle•

For this Trial it is temporary, so 3/4 turns, but still annoying if you ask me.

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_Barook_•

How do hybrid attacks work against it?

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JohnnyGBHoly Ayaka Queen of all trades!•

only the magical part goes in. physical gets negated

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