Oklahoma's rough weekend off the field continues poor narrative for Bob Stoops | SportsDay
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sportsday.dallasnews.comPosted Apr 11, 2017, 11:21 PM UTC
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sportsday.dallasnews.comI glossed over the reports of the public intoxication arrests when I first heard them. I figured it was no big deal, right? Wrong. I have come to the conclusion, after reading Chuck Carlton's hard-hitting paragraph, that Stoops has lost control of the program. I have no idea if Mixon or Cobb were punished for the actions since it wasn't listed in the article. I will just assume they weren't since it helps to write Stoops' poor narrative. I'm woke now though. I wonder how deep this rabbit hole goes? Did Stoops have the Big 12 Championship Trophy broken on purpose? Was he the mastermind behind Pastagate?
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I don't want to jump to any wild and baseless conclusions, but I am now 90% sure that Bob Stoops was complicit in the CJK5H scandal.
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Whoa, I think you're onto something here. Stoops and James both left college in '83 and are the same age. This means they're definitely friends while they were both in college. Obviously if your friend kills five hookers then you have to help him out. The honor code also dictates that he then owes you a huge favor.
Let's fast forward to '99. Mike Leach was the offensive coordinator at OU then left to be head coach at Texas Tech after just one year. Bob was sour over Leach's early departure. It fueled him to win the National Championship in '00 just to spite him. But it wasn't enough. Every year it just ate and ate him that Leach would betray him like that. Obsessed over what they could have built. Perhaps it was losing the year before to him, but in 2008, Bob snaps and destroys Leach's #4 Texas Tech team in prime-time 65-21. It was during this beating Stoops became aware his old friend's son was playing for Leach.
Craig James phone rings later that week. It was Bob. He was now calling to cash in on the favor. James had no choice but to do as Bob said. Bob had James force his son to provoke Leach in hopes of getting him fired. It worked. In 2009, Leach lost his cool and made Adam James sit in a shed a couple times after complaining. As we know, this led to Leach being fired. Bob wasn't done though. He wanted to enjoy Texas Tech's demise in the 2010 Alamo Bowl knowing how much it would eat away at Leach for not being there. However, instead he watched in dismay as Texas Tech overcame the adversity and beat Michigan State. It was also when he took notice of the emergency-fill-in, wide-receiver-to-offensive-coordinator Lincoln Riley.
And the rest is history...
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BSK5H?
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That's a take on the old Craig James meme. In this case, "BSK5H" - "Bob Stoops killed 5 hookers"
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I am LOVING these arrests! We're finally going to start winning again!
Sin,
Every Fan Alive/Aware in the 80s
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That's good stuff, thanks for the laugh.
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No it doesn't. It was a non-story, still a non-story
It's clickbait
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Well it looks like we caught a pretty big fishy (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞
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That's what they said about Baylor until... well, you know.
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I like throwing shade at OU any chance I get but PI and MIP are not even in the same galaxy as sexual assault.
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Stoops isn't running a tight ship like he used to.
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It's clickbait
Mmm - I don't know about that. To me it seems unfair to bring up the Joe Mixon story, since that's not exactly that recent. The remainder may have some legs.
The arrest of Mayfield and Cobb are recent enough (Mayfield - February, Cobb - January) to be thrown into a comment concerning the atmosphere at OU. The arrests of Robison and LaRue, while not earth shattering, have to be at least contribute to a frustrating off-season for Coach Stoops and staff.
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Mixon - years of go Cobb - Felony robbery instant boot Mayfield/Robinson - dumb college shit.
Different situation all of them
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As I mentioned, it seemed unfair to bring up Mixon. That's not a recent thing and the national media beat up Coach Stoops on that already. How long will "journalists" keep going to that well?
Mayfield's arrest could easily have been more serious than you indicate. He was only charged with PI, but could have faced resisting arrest. I'm thankful for his sake that it didn't escalate to that level.
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I'm to the point of not listening to anyone who brings up the Mixon thing. Literally nothing more can be gained or said from the situation and it makes me feel like such a condescending jackass because I will instantly judge someone's character and intelligence based on how they have that conversation. Especially websites/blogs/shows that purely bring it up for the views and 'hot' takes.
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Years ago?
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I agree. Some of these are more serious than others, but the ones that are serious can do some damage.
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There are actually 3 brief stories in that article. 1) Questions about TCU offense, immediately followed with "nothing to worry about", 2) The title story - which has some room for discussion, 3) SMU's Chad Morris making bold predictions.
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"This will be the best we've been since I've been here," Morris said. "What does best mean? I don't know. We'll talk about that in December. But we've got a chance and we'll be a hard out for somebody."
Eh, this isn't really that bold of a prediction. Pretty much everyone thinks it'll be his best team yet.
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Something is different in Norman lately. Obviously they kick our ass every year, but I don't feel as intimidated by the stability of the program like I used to.
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The denial in this thread by some sooner fans is a little ridiculous. I mean there is college kid shit and stuff like that but you have to have some concerns regarding Stoops control of his team, could become a distraction for the players next season if the media keeps talking about em.
That's just my take, I know I'll get some Downvotes for sure because of other shit against the sooners I've said, but I'm not trying to throw shade here, just contribute.
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Not planning to downvote you, just genuinely curious why anyone would believe Stoops' control of the program has slipped after a few players engaged in activity that 80+% of college students engage in at some point.
Parrish Cobb had a troubled past of surrounding himself with the wrong people, made a mistake upon his return to that place for a brief time, then was kicked off the team.
I genuinely don't see how it could be more than I've stated here.
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hes not been kicked off the team, has he? just suspended?
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Cobb has been suspended from both the team and the university.
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Just suspended until he is convicted, once convicted he'll be officially off. Stoops let's the legal system run it's course before taking final action with internal punishments.
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I think it's slipped because I've never seen this many issues piling up under Stoops.
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There have been plenty of players caught on campus corner acting a bit unruly with some alcohol in them, things are just more highly publicized now.
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Everyone engages in it, I agree 100%
But some do it's more flamboyantly than others and that's when it's a problem
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I agree with you that it's certainly not a good thing. I just don't necessarily believe it's an indication of anything more deeply rooted. College kids drinking, especially. I guess we'll see going forward.
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All I know is that with every arrest of a Sooner player that I more fear the upcoming rematch.
They are getting close to the U level here, and those teams were great, ergo...
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Oh plz we got em at home
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We had VT at home that one time...
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Pretty sure that's what they thought last year, hosting at home, and with a depleted Ohio State team (depleted in the record draft class sense)
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There's already a poor narrative on Stoops for retaining, recruiting, and bringing in violent guys.
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Stoops needs to tighten it up.
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With what? Patrolling the social activities of each player, every night?
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No, just tighter discipline for off the field shenanigans, I'm not saying he needs to do a bed check every night.
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I mean, do you want every college coach to quit recruiting players who drink? Robison was arrested for a PI while walking home. That's unfortunate, but it's not like he was driving or even reports of causing a scene.
Yep. I'm with you. PI isn't huge. I'm really not trying to stir the pot at all.