Balancing same day workout efforts

How do you folks manage pacing when taking on two workouts in a day? I attempt to keep hard days hard and easy ones easy which can lead to a hard workout on the bike in the morning and another at lunch for running.

After doing the morning cycling workout of threshold work, my run workout sucked miserably. I was off by about 1 minute in pace for my work intervals and I couldn't get my legs moving in the 800m sections.

Do you throttle the paces in your second workout and adjust second workout paces down to reflect your prefatigued state?

Posted Apr 14, 2017, 11:15 PM UTC

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Jennyvs1011•

Train by HR.

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ultimateplayer44OP•

I do train with HR. I was working zone 4 efforts in both workouts the other day.

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Jennyvs1011•

HR is HR. Just train to what your prescribed HR for the workout is. Some days I run fast in zone and some days I can barely hold a 10:00 pace. I don't watch my paces at all during workouts. If it's a zone 2 run I hold Z2.... etc. race day it all comes together (hopefully).

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killaskezo•

I work out in the morning before work. Then I'll work out again around lunch time or after work. I typically put my priority workout first. With a few hours between workouts it's plenty of time to recover

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farmerbird•

Yup, that's my schedule too.

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ultimateplayer44OP•

I was expecting it to be enough time as well. I have been doing doubles a lot, but I am starting to work into muscular endurance workouts and seeing the fatigue.

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farmerbird•

If doing 2 workouts a day is new for you, it may just take some time for your body to be able to handle a decent amount of intensity on the second workout. Replacing lost glycogen with a carb dense shake right after your first workout may help with recovery so you feel fresher for round two at lunch...it works for me. I do a banana, whole milk, a pinch of sea salt and cocoa powder in the blender within 30 minutes of finishing the workout.

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ultimateplayer44OP•

I am wondering if it was nutrition, as I usually can hit the marks or be within 15 seconds on an 800m repeat even on days I don't feel great.

Been doing doubles since the beginning of the year, but now is when the intensity picks up in my plan.

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Tera35•

Doing threshold cycling work and running intervals on the same day is not a good idea.

You likely need to move them to different days. If you cannot, you need to put a priority on one of them.

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ultimateplayer44OP•

I think I learned that the hard way. Will look to split those workouts apart again. I feel like it set me back a few days since recovery wasn't complete by Sunday when I went to do my threshold run.

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Connan23•

I like to use my second workout as a recovery. Typically will do a swim or easy bike ride after a hard workout. Not sure scientifically if that is the best approach but I've found it works good for me. I take 1 day a week completely off.

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