[MODPOST] Important subreddit info. Please read.

I'm making this announcement because the sub needs to take a breather real quick.

 

Within the past day, a lot of arguments, name-dropping, politics, and drama has taken place and I feel that has no place of this sub. I've since deleted posts, banned users, and locked a thread.

r/Petscop is supposed to be a place to discuss theories about a strange PSX game. You are all free to express your opinions and thoughts on the game, but please consider how what you say will affect other people. We should be helping each other out, not dragging each other down.

 

I'm going to remind everyone of the rules, which are also in the sidebar:

  • Absolutely no witch-hunting, doxxing, or chasing down real-life people.

  • Submissions must be directly relevant to Petscop. Irrelevant controversial politics will be removed.

  • Hate speech of any kind is not allowed.

  • Do not post porn or especially NSFW content.

  • Be civil. Please keep personal drama and callouts out of our subreddit. If there is a problem that needs immediate attention, message the mods.

  • Not following the rules will get you banned at the mods' discretion. Otherwise, have fun!

 

I also feel the need to address the connections we're making with real-life events. The Candace Newmaker tragedy was a true event that happened quite recently. Real people were involved.

We have no solid evidence that Petscop is directly about the case, only potential allusions. Out of respect for Candace and those involved, we request that you keep this in mind. Do not harass real-life people involved with the case. I'm going to paste in the post u/chl0enova made that was previously stickied.

Hi all! So, to preface -- I'm super enthralled with all of this, and really excited to learn more.

That said, I just want to put it out there that we need to be careful with our investigations into things referenced in the game, as well as certain issues it brings up.

What happened to Candace Newmaker was a very real (and very recent) tragedy, involving real people, and as a subreddit we should endeavor to be respectful and careful while looking into things.

I don't mean to sound preachy or anything, but I'd also hate to see a witch hunt begin, or someone's real life disturbed by our curiosities, and I especially would hate to see any disrespect towards any victims of real life tragedies referenced in the game.

Anyways. That's my obligatory PSA! Sorry if it rubbed anyone the wrong way, and here's hoping we get a new video soon!

 

All in all, at least remember that this is just a mystery game. Please feel free to comment with any suggestions for the subreddit you might have as well.

Thank you all for listening and following the rules. Happy investigating.

Posted Apr 24, 2017, 8:23 PM UTC · edited

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CripleMikeNever sunny.•

Agreed. There will always be people who will be against using real life cases in "games". Personally I am not offended by much, but I can understand if people find it offensive. I don't personally think a rant once in a while is a bad thing, at the end we're helping people out by letting them vent.

It's all very strange.

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dudemo•

I said what I meant in the deleted/locked post. I feel horrible for any victims involved and apologize that they have to go through this again.

My initial interest in the series has been and continues to be whether or not any hidden codes are in the audio and the technical aspects of whether or not this is an actual PS1 homebrew or unfinished game. I don't care much for the story. It is horrible. But the technical aspects intrigue me. So I will continue finding and posting my findings.

I have tried to refrain from speculation because I don't see the point. The story is going to play out, whether we speculate or not. I also am aware they speculation is going to happen regardless if I participate or not. So I read them.

I genuinely wish we could get some more audiophiles in here. And some video analysts. Stop arguing and let's dig into the technical part of how it was done, not why and by whom.

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dtabitt•

I have tried to refrain from speculation because I don't see the point.

To generate discussion and ideas. It was so weird for me, after I first read about Petscop, that I thought maybe the name was an anagram...and there is someone else posting the exact same thought.

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dudemo•

I'm not saying that there is no point to speculating if you want to. For me, I don't see the point. There doesn't appear to be anything here but a story waiting to play out. So let it. This is my opinion.

As I also said, I'm not naive enough to think that nobody is going to talk about their ideas and theories. I appreciate and agree with a lot of what is posted here as theories. I just don't find it to be helpful, and has been seen recently it can in fact be detrimental.

Perhaps there needs to be a "theories" thread for exactly this. Post your theories there and discuss it inside that thread so we don't have them being posted willy-nilly all over the subreddit. Or maybe I'm just being stupid and stubborn. :(

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dtabitt•

For me, I don't see the point. There doesn't appear to be anything here but a story waiting to play out. So let it. This is my opinion.

And I understand that completely. It's just really fun to speculate.

I just don't find it to be helpful,

Would there be much discussion without speculation on an art project only one person seems to be responsible for?

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pocstep•

These are the same people who show up in true crime forums and say people are sick and twisted for being interested in this stuff. It's not for ya, ya know? Murder is NOT a private act. It is by nature a crime against society, not an individual. It's why the state will charge a person for attempted murder even if the victim doesnt want to press charges.

Everyone had a stake in it. A stake that should be a respectful kind and compassionate one, but it's not like someone gets killed and it's taboo to talk about it because its rude or impolite.

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Sol2062•

That is an interesting take on the matter. I know that, viscerally, I feel like there is something wrong with this idea. But logically I can't think of a reason why it is.

Would you care to talk more about it? Or point me in the direction of further writing on the matter? I'm not being facetious, I am seriously very intrigued by the idea of murder as a public act.

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pocstep•

Murder is not just a crime against one person. Its a crime against everyone who knew that person. Its also a crime in the basest way against the state because you are depriving them of a potential tax payer. But seriously, murder is not some private affair that needs to be or should be hush hushed. Murder is the ultimate crime that makes everyone confront and question our existence and morality. You cannot put in your will "I'm OK with this person killing me, dont arrest them." It doesnt matter if you're considered sane when you decided that - murder is more than an individual act.

The State is another word for "the collective will of everyone" (at least in principle). Murder is a crime against the State.

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pocstep•

Forgot to add: And so the idea that someone can come in here and shame us for talking about a murder like we're fucked up and indecent and everyone should just not talk about or forget or not make art about this crime is just stupid.

I would put to anyone the question of "too soon?" Its a Socrites Paradox. Exactly how many days need to pass for it to be ok to make art about a murder? If you think its ok to make art about old murders but not recent ones you must have some kind of rubric to be taken seriously, and the fact is any rubric would likely be absurd.

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megarock35•

Thanks, mods. The sub went from 0 to 60 real quick after Kotaku brought traffic. Too bad things spiraled out of control for a few hours this soon after taking off. :/

Just a suggestion, maybe you should encourage people not to tag trolls and/or "problem users" directly? Or at least when not talking shit. That can only ever lead to the problem getting worse, yet I see a lot of people tagging a user in the same post they talk bad about them...

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pocstep•

I dunno if you're referring to me calling out whats his face for antisemitism, but trust me, I wouldnt do that if it wasnt so egregious. He deserves to be called out publicly and I'm happy mods agreed with me.

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megarock35•

Sort of. I had just seen he was banned, which is for the best.

But I mean in general I saw people talk about him, like in that deleted thread by "petsckid" or whoever, just calling him a troll or crazy... while tagging him. It did nothing but feed the troll, honestly.

But yeah didn't mean it as personal or passive-aggressive or whatever, just thought it was worth considering for inevitable trolls going forward.

e: I meant to say sorry if I came off that way, but only implied it. Whoops! So yeah, sorry, hope I didn't sound like a dick there!

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pocstep•

Word I got ya! Sorry I didnt meant to come off as aggressive (if I did) I just really enjoy this mystery and want to be immersed in it.

And truth be told I honestly have this medication I take called buproprion and it works great for depression and ADHD but it gives me false memories. I literally remember playing this game with my friend as a kid and finding some of this weird stuff. Its never a false memory that's like life altering but one thats enough to make me have to reach out to friends and confirm that I'm really just trippin.

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megarock35•

No it's fine! I just wanted to clarify, because I want this sub to stay friendly! It's sensitive stuff, and I'd hate this cool thing to be ruined by resentment or community in-fighting.

Yeah, I've had fake memories too, though not from any of my medications. For something like Petscop, it must add a whole other layer to the experience! It's trippy enough for me just seeing something this close to a PS1 game knowing it was probably made just for a creepypasta, haha.

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valzilla2000OPDaisy-Head Mayzie•

Thank you. I was very conflicted on this because I don't think that calling out people personally is in good taste. However, had that certain user not been called out, I wouldn't have seen the antisemitism as quickly as I did.

Can I propose a compromise? No personal drama allowed in the sub, and if there is a problem user one should message the mods.

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megarock35•

Yeah in that case it worked out well. If he hadn't decided to bring that mess here, I would've still watched him for a reason to ban tbh.

No personal drama is definitely a good rule! Encompasses way more than just this issue, without outright banning the ability to tag a user, which is harmless 90% of the time.

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valzilla2000OPDaisy-Head Mayzie•

Done. Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it!

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megarock35•

No problem! Thanks for staying on top of it, 'cos I'm sure it's only get to be a harder job from here, hahaha.

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