Make The Call, Mods.
Is this forum Anarchism, or AntiFa?
Because not all anarchists are AntiFa or even support them. Not all AntiFa are even anarchists or support anarchism. In fact the European AntiFa don't identify as Anarchists at all.
You've got quotes on the site from anarchist thinkers, some of whom would never agree that unorganized youth mobs acting exactly like agents provocateur by attacking unarmed civilians under the flag of Anarchy actually represent anarchism, then you've got pics of AntiFa agitators top & bottom.
You need to make a call, because currently the net effect AntiFa is having is to smear the entire philosophy and movement. Defending them here as representative of Anarchism as a whole is damaging every other anarchist, and again - AntiFa isn't even committedly anarchist. Any kid or undercover cop can put on a mask and claim AntiFa regardless of ethos. Will this sub support them regardless? Including false flag actions? I will never support uncoordinated, semi-random attacks by loose mobs of ignorant, over-privileged yuppies from academia against targets of opportunity including civilians as either representative of Anarchism or as being a productive tactic even if it were.
If this sub really is for Anarchism, then AntiFa has their own sub and can defend their actions in their own venue, and you need to do some firewalling to prevent the damage they cause to themselves from becoming damage they to do everyone else interested in the other 90% of anarchism. If this is an AntiFa sub, then that needs to be made clear and personally I would prefer to see you stop co-opting the message of anarchism to justify what I consider to be idiocy.
Half of the pro-antifa sentiment in here comes off as covert attempts to radicalize the sub and undermine the effort in general, which we all know for a fact groups are actively doing.
I'd be much happier with demanding that pro-antifa posts be moved to antifa subs, just as you would for explicitly anarcho-capitalist posts or explicitly libertarian posts despite those having interest for and overlaps with Anarchists in general.
AntiFa are not Anarchists and we have no obligation to stand in solidarity with them.
Stop letting them paint anarchism as a nest of violent extremists - most of them don't even care about anarchism.
Posted Apr 26, 2017, 5:34 PM UTC · edited