Never noticed that Sil looking out for Tony in this scene
Posted Apr 29, 2017, 6:39 AM UTC
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There's your coffee Ton'.
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heavy nasal breathing
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Tony remedied the 'showing weakness' thing by kicking his bodyguard's ass later on in front of everyone. Speaking of that scene, when Tony is sizing everyone up and looking at all the fellas and the camera is panning up their muscly arms in slow motion... it was so homo erotic it was like they were shooting in Vito Vision. I thought Tony was going to end up needing a doctor's note from Vito's physician.
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I never took it as homo-erotic really. Tony was feeling hyper-vulnerable and the health of these young men made him bitter and mad. It was anger at his loss of youth and health and that's why he beat up pepper-ass for no good reason.
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I know, I was referring more to the way they filmed it.
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I got the impression he knew not to pick a fight with any of the actual tough guys because he knew he really was weaker than usual from his injuries. Basically he went after the weakest guy in the room. Just my $0.02.
I also love how Paulie (and maybe more of them) know exactly what's happening and tries to stop the kid from fighting back. "Don't do it kid!" or something like that.
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I disagree about him being weak, by any measure. Tony could have surely beaten Paulie, patsy, or SIL, even if not Bobby or Chris. It might have been partly about not wanting to beat up a guy who's done so much for him as those guys have, but mostly I think it's about how the bodyguard would react. If he yelled at mostly anyone else in that room, they would have submitted, like they're supposed to. The BG, however, is a hothead, as we saw earlier with his road rage incident, he was dumb enough to argue, and then to hit back. He's the one that gave Tony the chance to not only beat on someone, but to defend himself against someone who was attacking him. Someone like Chris wouldn't have dared hit Tony.
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It shows him worried and hurting. I just thought he was looking for someone to beat up.
Definitely seems true the others wouldn't have fought back. Smart enough not to.
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Another one of my favorite episodes!
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The ass-kissing is vile. None of them care about Tony, and Tony is repulsed by all of them. Just seeing how much he can get each of them to do. FFS 4 of them get up to scoop the onions out of the whatever...
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It's outta respect. 🤘🏻🤘🏻 don't you forget that.
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In a way, I think Sil would've done the same thing had they been two guys working construction, in my eyes Sil was probably one of very few people Tony would consider a friend, just a friendship they've had to put some professional distance from as to not piss off other people in the top tier positions. After all, prior to Tony taking up the mantle Sil was already the voice of reason; just once he got the bump to council from Tony's recommendation it did put a different spin on their relationship, but with that said by the end of it Sil is still one of the most trustworthy people in Tony's stable, so it justifies Sil's final moments being in limbo, giving Tony a further sense of insecurity.
But I do agree, on a whole the brown nosing from the likes of Matt Drinkwater right up until the newer kids like Walden Belfiore in S6 is pretty disgusting, but understandable. You take the area manager of a chain of shops and put him in a random store for the week, he'll be swimming in free coffees from sycophantic employees. Apply that same logic to the mob and it boils down to this; some people see powerful people as the controller of the observer's fate, as their meal ticket toward something better.
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When you say 'looking out', do you mean not revealing his weakness?
I got that impression too.
Syl was a fantastic consigliere. Never seemed to be overly ambitious with excepiton to the last season but even that was short lived.
Yeah I discovered this by a comment in the vid. Basically u got Tony the alpha male revealing his weaknesses Sil basically saving Tony by changing the subject.