So, I guess everybody has a different conception of these and I keep wondering what is High Elo to u. People of 1200 say 1400 is High. People in 1400 say 2000. So what is High Elo to you?
-I'm 1650 and I still think it's low. I see high Elo as 2100+
Posted May 4, 2017, 3:10 PM UTC
I'm still in elo hell for no reason
While it is harder to climb ELO at sub1200, any good player can still have a positive net ELO.
Unless you've dropped past 600 ELO (which is where true ELO hell begins), "ELO hell" is just an excuse for your own incompetence.
edit: and if you have dropped past 600 ELO, it means you are bad at the game, so either way the fault lies on the player
Elo hell doesn't exist.
I beg to differ. Because of a series of bad games I dropped from 1300 to 1160. Elo hell does exist. Many people on this subreddit who have similar experiences will tell you the same.
If you drop from 1300 to 1160 without dcing in at least 10 games there's something wrong with your skill level
It wasn't all at once and it wasn't all in a row. It was more like I only won 4 out of 20 games and it is NOT my skill level. I have already climbed back up to 1200.
The people on this subreddit are a vocal minority, and, like most communities surrounding games with a competitive section, will always consider themselves better than they really are.
Are you suggesting most people in the community don't have bad games or series of bad games?
I didn't realize 14,000 was a "vocal minority". However, it doesn't really matter. I'm not using that as evidence of elo hell but I know it exists from personal experience as well as simple mathematics. Elo was developed for chess, a 1v1 game. For a team game it is a flawed system at best and the mathematics controlling Elo is fishy. If the town has a retributionist and that ret gets killed night 1, the town still loses more elo because the game thinks that the town should still have a better chance of winning. There are much better rating systems for team games but elo should stay only in chess where it actually works.
I see you plenty of times (and I'm 2430) so your elo is definitely not bad. I'd considering 2000+ to be high (2400+ is top 100), but you're in mid elo zone full of great players like Zoltar and Marie Antoinette and Moxley.
great players like Zoltar and Marie Antoinette and Moxley.
YOU MUST BE KIDDING ME
you're saying that claiming sheriff d2 every game to accuse a random person of being mafia, then claiming to be a BMG mod at the end of the game to get people to vote with you, isn't a good strategy?
It's for bad players. The new meta is claiming jailor and accuse someone of not claiming a role, then get lynched and accuse people of being too low elo to understand your strats
The new meta is being Jailor and claim that random is mafia and he turn out been jester. Than claim that u'rr Jailor to Vig don't shoot u
Moxley was Mafia with me 2x yesterday... Poor guy. Frist game i died to vamp as consig, Moxley was mafioso, GF just gave up and said "I'm GF".
But yeah, I usually play with 1300~2500 ppl. I guess they just throw sometime then.
Above 1000 is pretty high. I'm currently stuck at around 600 so I guess I'm OK at the game.
I don't think the consensus is 1000 is high. I think most people consider 1500+ to be start of what you might consider "high".
I mean... you start at 1200, 1000 being high would be weird
Smh... looks like I needed to tag that as sarcasm
Hello botpmm7345,
I recommend you start over with a new account. You are playing with the worst players right now
1800 generally means you're getting put into the highest queue on the server so anything beyond that is kinda meh. Above 1300 means you've escaped elo hell and at around 1500 means you're generally set for good games. Of course if you queue at bad time the limited player base means you could end up in a 1200 game no matter how high your elo is.
With good games u mean games when Gf don't claim and get hunged and 4 maf don't inno when there's only 3 guilty votes from town? Cause that what I see in 1600
A. 4 maf wouldn't be able to inno since one of them is on the stand.
B. How many town were there? If this happened like D3 with like 12 people alive, voting innocent would put them all in suspicion.
C. The rule of thumb is to guilty or abstain unless you have the vote, voting innocent on a GF is a sure fire way to get eyes on you.
Well: A. they should inno if that a vfr and town is not sure what to vote. Most ppl abs on town, and like I said, there were 3 guiltties only.
B. that was D4 I guess, and even maf said on maf chat after "oh, sorry, i was not paying attention" after i complain of abs. 4~5 twnies, 4 maf, 1 ne, 1 nb, 1 nk. Something like that.
C. The 4 maf thing was not about that GF, i guess should had put a dot in the middle. Anyway they could claim that he could be jester and say "vig shoot him, get more roles". But i was saying about the situation on the B point. The guy had a good claim (only 3 townies guilttied him and witch and me innoed) and they not even was susp about me or the witch after all, cause jailor jailed my RM (i was GF and my mafioso was up, he claimed TI and had a decent will)
yeah that's what you do if you're a bad passive player who hopes to win by staying silent and doing nothing. Any good mafia players know to support each other in order to get majority fast.