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r/TownofSalemgame•
SamsonB79

This is my last straw, survivor should be removed from the game. (vent)

Probably going to get down voted to hell for this. But I am sick and tired of getting this role. Claim, don't claim. It doesn't matter, you are dead meat to the town. I just got out of a game that I was so close to winning. I thought I did everything right. I actively participated in the town, I pushed for mafia lynches, I pointed things out. And eventually me and the town were able to narrow things down to 2 people. A player who has been silent the whole game, and me. By some weird stroke of genus they vote me up first. I state that I am survivor (since all the town roles were known, claiming something else would have been suicide) even reasoning that if I was gf, why would I push for the mafia lynches? and they shrug with the reasoning "we don't need survivor" and then I get unanimously guiltied. Words cannot express the rage I felt at that moment for playing survivor the "right" way and losing anyway just to a town betrayal. I never want to play this dumb role again.

Posted May 10, 2017, 8:51 PM UTC

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DitogalaxyBlackmailer•

It happens. Survivors is already one of the easier roles, no reason to remove it.

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vinj4•

Yes there is. It's less about how "hard" it is to win as surv and more about how the role impacts the other players. It's a role that sits there without helping a side, then gets to pick which side wins at the end. Forcing each side to go on a political campaign to get the surv's support is not what this game should be about. Each role should be forced to help a particular side win.

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DitogalaxyBlackmailer•

Why should every role be supposed to help a particular side? Witch and jester should be removed too? Even normal werewolf has cupid that doesn't give a crap who wins. And who are you to say what the game is about? You kinda didn't create it.

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Rayalot72It's a conspiracy!•

It takes laterally no skill. You die or live based on luck.

This is why I treat Surv like an NE role.

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EsxSte83•

The "right" way to play survivor is to survive.

The challenge of the role is avoid being picked off at night, and to avoid being lynched by the town.

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AeriSicherI am all that I see•

I agree with EsxSte83. In this particular situation the best chance you had to survive was by siding with godfather and ending the game.

The godfather clearly had the upper-hand in this situation: lynch the survivor and kill the town / lynch the last town or do nothing and kill the town at night.

However, since you were actively helping town and lynching the evildoers... you can throw away both the second and third options for the godfather. Voting for the town would be pointless since you may have voted for the godfather anyways and doing nothing is simply not an option if you are going to vote. The only reasonable action the godfather has left is to lynch the survivor or he loses.

I hope you take something from this...

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BlueBerryHunterI Bring The Plague•

dont remove my 50 surv scrolls from the Pot

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LbortZTHE JESTER WILL GET REVENGE FROM THE GRAVE!!•

You actually did make a mistake. If you are survivor, never be forced to claim once you are already on stand. The right thing to do would be to claim survivor at the start of the day after gaining town's trust and ask for the other person to be lynched first.

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Frikgeek•

Well, they're kinda right. If it's down to 2 people you lynch one and then execute the other one or just lynch them the next day if you still have the votes. It's not town's responsibility to make sure you get your win, to them you really don't matter when they have the votes.

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EpicEmperor♥come♥ here♥ i'm♥ fluffy♥ •

Yeah. i can see this. we can't help stupid people but at least it works to remove the role. it would be kinda sad but may be needed.

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DrunkGrapistGodfather•

That's not playing it the right way, that's playing it the pussy way.

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True_SketchBRING OUT YOUR DEAD•

Survivor is by the far one of the most interesting roles in the game and this is evidenced by how much this subreddit talks about the role.

You read a lot of complaints and hate on the Survivor role in forums, but the people who believe Surv is fine typically just quiet and enjoy easy wins. And there ARE easy wins when it comes to Survivor. If one has played long enough, you no doubt will experience a zero effort Surv victory. Sometimes the role is easy, sometimes it's not depending on the game.

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YuiSnowHey Its Me, Hannah•

The problem is that ppl get raged of survivors cause they "made them lose" a game. Even if the survey has nothing to do with it. Town have 89 players, maf 34 and both should be able to handle the game. If they just can't is not survivors fault. Them if survivor pick someone to win ppl start saying "I'll always kill survivors" cause they don't want assume that were their own fault the lost.

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