If LE found that piece of paper with my AB and Electrum mnenomics, and User/Pass... Am I Fucked?

🔒 OPSEC Question Discussion

Say hypothetically, if somehow, some weird way, the local city police head's of department found the only piece of paper that had the proper .onions wrote along with my AB username, password, mnemonic, my Tails login info, Persistance password, my Helix username and password, also mnemonic, and my TAILS Electrum password, and once again that mnemonic, and lastly my PGP password.. AM I FUCKED?

Note: I have 2/FA enabled on AB and Helix, They definitely did not find any hardware such as the TAILS micro-chip, or any of my PGP keys. I obviously changed all my passwords immediately when this became a suspicion.

Is there anything they can access or extract from all the information wrote on that piece of paper that should have my butthole puckered?

Aside from randomly stumbling upon that valuable piece of paper, I have no other reason to think they would even suspect me of anything at all, or have any other type of evidence besides at the very worst, word of mouth locally that I'm the fuckin plug.

The reason I'm even noided about it is, the local LEs came to my place of residence (Completely clean, and not used for a drop in over a year) on suspicion that my ex-girlfriend who has outstanding warrants was hiding there. Knowing the house was completely clean, I consented for them to do a walk-through searching for the ex whom I haven't associated with in months. After they spent about 45 minutes clearing every room in the house, they left and no problems occured at the time. It wasn't until later I forgot I had that paper out of hiding for the first time ever, and I could've sworn it was mixed in with a bunch of scattered documents/books on my desk. I've since searched high and low and cannot find that motherfucker for nothing. So I re-iterate, AM I FUCKED?

Posted May 22, 2017, 2:03 PM UTC

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pnchdrnk•

There's no reason the law should have looked through a stack of papers, my girls skinny as he'll, but I don't think she could hide there. You should have walked the cops into each room & stayed with them while they cleared it. But I'm fairly sure, in theory at least, that without probable cause & a warrant they can't do nothing to you.

But change up anyway, better safe then shackled.

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BarMoneyOP•

Yeah, unfortunately there was 4 of them. 1 had me out on the porch while the other 3 had free reign over my house. The 1 that had me on the porch is the Chief of Police, he hires and fires the deputies and is like the #1 ranked in our shit hole police force.

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Brookklyn•

Why let's cops search your place without a warrant? That's where the problem started...talk about ospec

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Xanzibar_•

Probably to get them off his back. If they went there knowing his relationship with her then they likely assumed she would be hiding there, so the search reduces how much of an eye they keep on him.

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Brookklyn•

well we see how that turnt out for him! No warrant means NO search period...but I'm just a person who knows their rights I'm no attorney

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BarMoneyOP•

I'm not one of those liberals that gets pulled over driving and says "No I don't have to show you my driver's license, I know my rights!!!", just asking for trouble. Like I said, I knew my house was completely clean.. obviously other than my digital evidence and my fucking back up sheet of paper. They were local PD's though, I didn't think they'd have any interest in going through my shit. They make whatever rules they want, whether they were searching for a body or not, if I had shit in the open, they would've charged me with anything possible.

Had I said no you aren't coming in without a warrant, chances are, they'd have waited there and got the warrant and then came in and torn my fuckin place apart. Then they would have definitely ran through my shit to be assholes.

I'm the type that works around the system, not against it.

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BarMoneyOP•

Precisely my friend.

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OtterOracle•

It would take a decent amount of effort on their part from looking at all the information, trying to interpret it, identify you, and then seeing what their options are. Unless you are a career criminal/police know you, they're not spend their time bothering

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everlastingGob•

And you think they grabbed it ? If so you lost that shit.

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Bossmanrizzle12•

U wrote all of that for what??????

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BarMoneyOP•

In case I ever lost my Tails and the back-up stick, or somehow did too many drugs and forgot one of the passwords. Every one is different and not associated with any of my clearnet or 'normal' passwords.

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Bossmanrizzle12•

No I mean this wall of text.

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BarMoneyOP•

Fuck off, I'm noided and I haven't been using the bars.

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Shwayze039•

You're fine Gangsta

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DrugwarG•

How'd this happen ?

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[deleted]•

Not really they can log into your account I guess and if you encrypted your drops they aren't going to make the effort to track you down. Take it as a loss. You are not fucked to summarize it.

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theheeguy10•

Bro your good. Dont trip

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imhumbled•

Just change your password? Lol

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KyngPush•

Hey bud, you really shouldn't have all that written down, then you don't have to worry about that. If you are worried about losing your USB or something, just make an encrypted back up or two and have them in specific locations you wont forget. maybe even bury one somewhere (make sure to protect against moisture). Also, you should really get to know all the programs and tools on TAILS, they are all very useful. Use KeePassX to save your usernames, passwords, etc. so you don't have to have them laying around or memorize them. It also has a password generator so they can be more randomized and harder to crack without you having to memorize a bunch of random stuff. never re use a password. having the all that written down in your handwriting in your belongings is a no no. for a small buyer this isn't much to worry about, but I think it's important to raise these points, because new people read these posts and comments, and if no one says not to worry about it, then no one will worry about it. we need to worry about it.

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KyngPush•

also, hypothetically, if you WERE fucked and they got access to all that, changing your passwords wouldnt help much if they still got your pgp keys and know which wallets are yours, etc. You would need to generate new keys and wallets. I would assume everything is compromised and start over, but I do this anyway every couple of months.

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BarMoneyOP•

They did not get my PGP keys, as they did not get any hardware. I have only two micro-chip SD cards for tails, both are accounted for. They got the PGP encryption key you need to send BTC out when you have physical access to the OS.

All this is IF of course: But I've still yet to find the paper and have not stopped looking.

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Brooklyn9985•

Did the paper specifically say "Alphabay username or password?"

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BarMoneyOP•

Not exactly.. but basically, it was the alphabaywrjrktqn onion url and "User:" and "Pass:" below that.

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Brooklyn9985•

Should be fine, they shouldn't waste time on you.

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BarMoneyOP•

Thanks for optimism, I sure fuckin hope you're right.

I don't know if it matters but I've spent about $20k and something over 27 BTC on that account and wallet since maybe last June.

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Brooklyn9985•

Trust me, they'll drop it.

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BarMoneyOP•
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KyngPush•

well way to completely link you to your AB account lol

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