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[UK] Driver on phone doesn't see or hear me pull up next to him, bonus police car over the junction.

Posted May 27, 2017, 8:36 AM UTC

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ultrachronic•

"Mate look over the junction. That's the danger"

Disagree. The danger is the guy using his phone

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S44JOP•

Well, yeah. But the people that use their phones don't generally see it as a danger, so I pointed out the police van because that's what's dangerous to these people. 6 points and a £200 fine.

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Was he actually texting or just changing song? I saw an aux cable and he turned the volume down before he spoke to you.

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BarracksBoy•

Does it matter?

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Erm yeah, people changing radio stations at a junction is the exact same thing but nobody ever rags on them. Hell people change stations whilst driving along and they are just as distracted as changing the song on a phone.

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MC_Dickie•

yea, it does, actually, it's the equivalent of changing radio station or something, which IMO is perfectly acceptable to do at a red light. The only difference is touchscreen vs physical, tactile buttons but then you are stopped a red light anyway so it literally makes no difference, you have the time to stare and look at what you are doing.

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cdawg414•

What a cutie!

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regionalmanagement•

i was thinking the same thing. I wouldnt mind if was texting and driving if he was texting me

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MC_Dickie•

Really irks me that people stop on red lights inside the bike box

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chica420ALSO not the cammer•

Car driver might have done it legally by not being able to safely stop at the first line as the light was changing but was able to stop before the second line, which is legal.

Motorcyclist technically ran a red light by crossing that first line however.

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MC_Dickie•

It's a good point you make, but then if you plan your approach to Traffic lights in 9.9 times out of 10 you'll never be caught you.

If you see the light is amber as you approach, you know you're gonna have to stop.

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RoadSafeGB•

Biker runs the stop line but still feels he has the right to lecture other road users.....

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S44JOP•

Ah yes, going into the cycle lane that nobody uses is just as reckless and dangerous as using your phone. Gotcha.

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_Safine_•

Yes. It's there to allow cyclists to get over the junction before cars and motorbikes come up their back wheel. The cammer is preaching the law to another road user while blatantly disregarding another.

Maybe cyclists avoid it because there are arrogant careless road users making it dangerous. Even if it's not used, what is an extra 2 meters at most?

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purplepatch•

Still illegal. And I'm not sure how reckless and dangerous it is to text while stationary. Annoying because they often miss the green, but unless he continues while driving not really dangerous.

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Dank_Edits•

Dangers on not using a phone when stationary:

  • car could roll back, and they wouldn't know.

  • Unaware of their surroundings, and if they don't look when pulling away, then they could hit a motorcyclist, cyclist, etc.

  • If they are texting, they'll likely get a reply. Therefore, that will be a distraction if they are moving whilst they receive said reply.

  • Someone who can't leave their phone alone until they find a safe place, or finish their journey are likely to use it often, whether they are moving or not.

There are probably more dangers, but they are the ones I can currently think of. Oh, and it is also illegal, that motorcyclist could have just saved that guy from losing this licence.

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vz-R•

2 of your reasons are poor driving practices regardless of phone use, your car won't roll back if you use the handbrake and you're supposed to check your mirrors before moving off from a stop anyway. The other reasons you give are pure speculation.

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beejiu•

You are more likely to die from vehicle emissions than from a mobile phone user. Contrary to popular belief, using a mobile phone in a stationary car is neither reckless nor dangerous, even if it is technically illegal.

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Dank_Edits•

If you are texting someone, would you expect a reply???? There is a large possibility that the reply will come through whilst you're driving.

I know what you're thinking "they'll just wait until they're are stationary before they read their reply". In some cases yes, but if someone is so desperate that they can't wait until they are parked up somewhere to use their phone, then who's to say they won't feel the urge to look at the message whilst driving. Even the notification noise can cause them to lose slight concentration of the road.

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DMann420Drives backwards on all roads. •

Well, he is on a bicycle. It's just been heavily modified.

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