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r/PUBATTLEGROUNDS•
kr583

Why is burst fire on the m16 so bad?

Discussion

Every time I try to use burst fire on the m16, no shots hit even at close range. One time I was maybe 30-40 meters away from somebody, neither one of us were moving, I had a red dot sight aimed right in the middle of his back. I fired two bursts and not a single shot hit. Another time I was maybe 20 meters away, iron sights, aimed center mass, and maybe 1 bullet hit out of three slow bursts. Why is it so bad? One burst fired center mass should be able to land all three bullets, yet none hit. Why?

Posted Jun 6, 2017, 7:43 PM UTC

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vunderbay•

Sounds like user error. Without a video showing exactly what is happening I think that is what it is going to be chalked up to be. There's plenty of video evidence of people using burst fire effectively at range so not sure what else can be said. Edit: A word.

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Nova35•

Symptoms: missed shots. Diagnosis: low skill Treatment: git gud

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kr583OP•

I'm definitely not bad at the game so ok bud. I just don't like the m16

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Nova35•

Missing first shots on a stationary object is pretty bad, pal. I don't like the m16 either. So I don't use it, chief. I also don't like the VSS, so I don't use it, bucko. Just accept that you don't like it and it's not for you instead of blaming the game

Ninja edit: I'm sympathetic to not liking a gun. With a 4x and SCAR I can hit a gnats ass from 100yds out. Gimme a VSS and I'll miss the broad side of a barn while standing in the stall. Just don't use the shit and it's all good

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kr583OP•

I don't use the m16 on burst fire anymore. Hell, I don't even pick it up if I can find another rifle. I'm simple saying that it's ridiculous how a burst fire gun can miss the FIRST shot on a non-moving target from a medium range. In my opinion, an m16 on burst should definitely be able to shoot 1 burst accurately (aka all three bullets hitting center mass) <50 meters. Something is obviously not right if the m16 can't do that.

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serious_mullet•

Chocked isn't a word, you meant chalked. Sorry for the pedantry.

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vunderbay•

Fixed thanks for pointing that out hahah

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IPv666•

Recoil.

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kr583OP•

Recoil makes the first shot not hit either? That doesn't make any sense.

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IPv666•

Do you have video proof of this?

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kr583OP•

No, I lose too much fps if I record while I play.

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IPv666•

Well if recording is killing your FPS I question how well your rig can handle the shooting to begin with.

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Combat_Wombatz•

Did you have a grip on it? Compensator?

Recoil is a thing, and there's a reason it is used in single mode so often.

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jremsky•

Yes burst fire from that far you're maybe going to land one hit, better flip the switch!

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kr583OP•

But would recoil make it miss even the first shot in the burst? Obviously the answer is no, yet it misses so often.

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Combat_Wombatz•

If you are seeing the first shot miss, it is a well-known desync issue and has nothing to do with the M16 itself.

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kr583OP•

It hasn't been desync in my experience. I can fire a burst at a target that's not moving, miss every shot, then switch to single fire and hit shots easily. The burst is the issue.

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Combat_Wombatz•

I kill people all the time with burst, so I don't know what to tell you. Single is significantly more accurate though when you're not just trying to put loads of lead down-range.

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dankine•

It's fucking incredible

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kr583OP•

Super close range, yes. Anything over 10 meters and there's a 50/50 chance nothing will hit.

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Ruby_Rhods_Hair•

Because you can't control the recoil. Nothing needs fixing. The gun isn't glitched.

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kr583OP•

So putting the red dot on someones chest and shooting one burst means that no shots should hit? ok then

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R3tr0revival•

Honestly this sounds like desync.

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qrispy83•

I feel the M16 burst mode is only useful in close range up to 50m, but at this kind of range you are prolly better off with any gun with full auto or shotgun anyway.

However, pair a 4x scope and single fire-mode, the M16 is guaranteed to wreck shit at medium range engagements because it's so damn accurate

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