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Morning brainstorm: questions for a more comprehensive poll in 4 categories with possible multiple choice answers to each question to accommodate various levels of belief.

This is at the draft level at this point. Here is what I have so far separated into four basic categories, with one last question for everyone. I drafted it thinking of most questions being multiple choice or as an expression of confidence from 0 to 100% certainty.

Gauging belief in generic spirituality; if you consider yourself a non-believer in any hyper state of existence, then you can skip to the end question. You can also state here what guiding principles you use to make life decisions and interact with fellow humans and nature on this planet at this time.

  • Confident that pre-existant and post-existant life states are likely
  • Confident that a specific deity was responsible for creation of the universe
  • Confident that the deity can interact with humans on this planet and affect outcomes one-way-or-another.
  • Confident that rewards and punishment will be an element of afterlife judgments

Gauging belief in generic Christianity; if you consider yourself a non-believer in any form of Christianity, then you can skip to the end question.

  • Believe in the Judeo-Chrstian deity, i.e. the God of the Old Testament is the same as the God of the New Testament
  • Believe in a a literal Adam and Eve starting the human race.
  • Believe in the concept of original sin
  • Believe in the concept of virgin birth
  • Believe in the forgiveness of sin, including original sin, via the crucifixion of Jesus
  • Believe in a trinitarian form of deity: the father, the son, and the holy spirit.
  • Believe that everyone should become a Christian: every knee bend, every tongue confess
  • Believe punishment awaits non-believers who refuse Christ's offer, i.e. the concept of lake of fire and brimstone, Dante's inferno, Hell!

Gauging belief in mormonism's traditional truth claims; if you consider mormonism a fraud in total, then you can skip to the end question.

  • Beleive Smith saw two glorious personages that identified themselves per the 1838 account as canonized.
  • Believe Christ's first church went into apostasy and the "Latter Day Saints" represent a "restoration of all things."
  • Believe Smith had real golden plates which were a necessary component to the book of mormon, i.e. the engraved characters (per the Anthon Transcript) could be matched up in a one-to-one method by someone else skilled in the Reformed Egyptian language.
  • Believe Smith's Book of Mormon describes a literal ancient people who populated the western hemisphere from Novia Scotia to Tonga.
  • Believe in the new Abrahamic god as defined by Joseph Smith as it continued to evolve until 1844, per the King Follett Sermon and D&C 130-132.
  • Believe that mormonism's goal is to spread to the whole earth, per Daniel Chapter 2. McKay's admonition, "Every member is a missionary." stands.
  • Accept that mormons are to be a "peculiar people." The admonition to be "in the world, but not of the world" stands.
  • Believe that paying tithing will "open the windows of heaven" in a direct form of prosperity gospel.
  • Believe that perfection is possible and living a sinless life is merely a matter of willpower.
  • Capable of proving that you love god the most, per any Abrahamic test. God is above family. God is above social standing. God can ask anything and moral relativism allows me to accept "god's ways are higher than my ways." God might demand performance of his will at sword point.
  • Believe the second coming of Christ is imminent. Events will coalesce until Gog and Magog stand off in the Israeli desert. Satan will be imprisoned for a thousand years, and so on. Every tongue will confess that Jesus is the Christ and that Joseph Smith will be standing alongside at the same level, as a god-like peer who is "blessed to open the last dispensation."
  • Believe that families can be forever if sealed with the proper authority. Celestial polygamy is a fact. Earthly polygamy could return if the prophet rescinded the "to whom it may concern" memo that is Official Declaration 1.
  • Believe official ordinances must be performed by proper authority, either while in life, or by proxy for the deceased.
  • Believe in personal exaltation to godhood. In the parlance of the multi-verse, perhaps, an entire universe will be their reward for righteous living.

Gauging belief and obedience to mormonism's current leadership; if you've opted to follow another prophet besides Thomas Monson, or have started your own church then you can indicate that here and then skip to the end question.

  • Believe that Jesus Christ is personally standing at the head of the church, with the current prophet merely acting as his mouthpiece.
  • Believe that all of the top leadership have seen and talked with Jesus.
  • Believe that the leadership are inspired and hold keys to whatever calling they currently have. The top leadership hold the most keys. If a leader directs a person to do something, then it is their responsibility to obediently follow, even if they personally think it is wrong.
  • Believe that the mormon god would remove any prophets (by causing their death) before allowing his perfect restoration to go off of the rails again.
  • Believe that conference speeches, church periodicals, and its flagship website lds.org are the equivalent of canonized scripture. New doctrine and edicts have been mostly absent in the form of new D&C sections since Smith's murder in 1844; the faithful should look to these for guidance above all.
  • Believe that in 1978 the mormon god interacted directly to ensure that the ban on blacks of African descent was lifted.
  • Believe that in 2015 the mormon god interacted directly to ensure that those involved in gay marriages would face official church disciplinary councils with excommunication highly predetermined.
  • Believe in Benson's speech, Fourteen Fundamentals of Following the Prophet. God can whisper anything into the prophet's ear and weigh in on any subject without any prerequisite book learning; his only qualification is that god told him and that trumps all science.
  • Believe in zero tolerance for consumption of coffee, tea, and alcoholic beverages.
  • Believe that personal sexual exploration is wrong. Sex education should consist of abstinence only. People will learn all they need to know about sex on their wedding night. People are capable of overcoming any carnal desires or biological urges that they may have.
  • Believe that sex is mainly for procreation. Believe "not anything goes" in sexual relationshps because the holy ghost (or the all seeing eye) is watching and recording every movement. Oral sex and other forms of non-procreative sexual activity are a disqualification for temple worthiness.
  • Believe that families should be as large as possible and that women should be the preferred care giver. Birth control should only be used after substantial prayer and input from god and from the bishop, i.e. before obtaining a vascectomy or tubal ligation. The apostles have opted to stay out of the birth control debate, except to refer back to earlier statements from past prophets as not rescinded.

Last question:

If Joseph Smith were alive today, what church would he belong to? Would he still feel comfortable attending one of the branches of mormonism, or would he revert to being a Methodist again?

Posted Jun 9, 2017, 6:32 PM UTC · edited

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