Ultima weapon - Some suggestions to dev.

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Posted Jun 10, 2017, 3:34 PM UTC

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The-Oppressed•

Join Discord and chat with the community. Strong strategies that utilize multiple setups are forming. Instead of asking for nerfs let's think of solutions.

Remember playing raid bosses in MMORPG's like WoW? Have to wipe a few times to figure things out.

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xveganrox•

This isn't WoW, there's no in-game chat. There's no in-game function for premade groups, either - most groups are PUGs, and 99% of PUGs will fail 4-star. That's just bad design.

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The-Oppressed•

Give it some time. Maybe a week or so and the normal players will catch on.

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xveganrox•

You think in a week or so the whole player base will randomly get Aeriths in their gift boxes? It's not just strategy, it's pure gear check. Either your attackers are fully optimized Occultists or Berserker/S1C with UB, or you're going to have deaths. Most people don't have UB and Aerith.

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The-Oppressed•

No, but I don't think PUG's will be a 99% fail rate either. Probably more like 50%. It is a hard boss yes, but it is nice to have MP fights become more than just someone bringing Duncan and solo'ing the entire thing while everyone else can AFK.

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mvdunecats•

Remember playing raid bosses in MMORPG's like WoW? Have to wipe a few times to figure things out.

Did WoW raids tend to be limited time events? Ultima Weapon has a fixed window of opportunity to participate in.

Did WoW raids have general rewards that you built up toward receiving through numerous clears? Most of the end game, large group raids I'm familiar with through games like FFXI and FFXIV feature rewards that can randomly drop from a single clear. Wiping a good chunk of the time was ok since a single success could result in the much sought after drop.

But that's not the case with Mobius. The rewards are nice, but nothing that you can't get from other activities in this game. And once you do come up with a workable solution, that's only the start of the grind.

At least raids in most MMORPGs were worth the work because of the kind of rewards that were available. But this event? The rewards don't seem to be worth the headache as it currently stands.

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The-Oppressed•

Do you know how many weeks it took of clearing before a certain item would drop! Like if you wanted a trinket or weapon off a boss it could take weeks before it dropped and someone else in your raid wasn't up for it before you. If I could gradually earn my loot over time instead of relying on RNG I would have loved it back in the day.

As for the rewards, summon tickets and preset fractals are pretty amazing. Would I have also liked weapons? Sure, but what we have is still worth the grind.

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mvdunecats•

Summon tickets are equivalent to 500 magicite (i.e. there's nothing that you can do with 1 Summon Ticket that you can't do with 500 magicite). You can get the same exact thing by emptying your distiller 3.5 days, or by doing magicite MP 1-star and 2-star runs for 5 days.

I've gotten equivalent fractals bonuses from random fractals, at least with Attack +5%, HP +5%, EXP +10%, JCR and Improved Extra Skill Unlock. As for the others, I wouldn't be surprised if I can get the equivalent eventually. And that's a random reward from grinding trivial solo content.

Could you do the same thing in WoW? Instead of doing that super difficult, high level, large scale, wipe inducing raid, could you get the same rewards by simply logging in 4 days straight or by grinding out easy content?

The rewards aren't comparable. You honestly shouldn't expect players to approach this event like they would a MMORPG raid.

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The-Oppressed•

I guess you would rather breeze through fights without much difficulty for nothing rewards. Different strokes for different folks.

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Xenomorphica•

This isn't really viable, because the solutions all involve cards that a majority % of the playerbase do not have. The event is not any use if only a small % can participate, unless there are "strategies" that allow for any players to participate as long as they have 5* cards at all - like current GL 4 stars allow for - then it's not really good enough.

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nonsensitivityOP•

whatever :) I usually just join public teams.

So if this appear to be asking for nerf, then I will just delete this.

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DeimosLifeOnMars•

4* is crap just run 3* with 2 dancers and whatever atkers u want u'll be fine with 2 Tyro and LunaFreya optional

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