r/patientgamers•
urchigold

What's a genre you like, but you're terrible at?

For me it's RPGs where you manage a party. I just got Dragon's Age: Inquisition. Really enjoy it, but I'm hitting parts where it's getting more and more complex.

I keep getting more and more options to add to my party. But then I get paralyzed by decisions. Who do I add? Do I stick with one character of a type, or try to switch them out and level them all up?

Then there's equipment management. Realizing I didn't equip/upgrade armor after getting wrecked in combat. But also just hitting battles I can't win (like those ridiculous demons that shoot ice and solo my entire party.)

Contrast this to Shadow Warrior, which I just finished: just going from area to area and slaughtering demons.

What's your weakest genre that you still like?

Posted Jun 16, 2017, 11:53 AM UTC

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wolfyd33•

Real time strategies for me. I just want to turtle up and make a few of every unit even though its a terrible tactic

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saintcrazytoo much Hearthstone•

I cannot play RTS in multiplayer because the meta is always to rush down the opponent as soon as possible. I like building up a big powerful society slowly and then crushing everything but I can never get that far. I do like playing campaign modes though.

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wolfyd33•

Yeah I am exactly the same way! When I got StarCraft 2 I found myself enjoying the arcade mode with friends a lot of the time lol.

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Betruul•

Exactly!! Its so much fun to just "zerg crush" (NOT rush) with max supply of units.

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Mitchfarino•

Back in the days of red alert on the PSX, my mate used to bring his round and we would use the network cable (can't remember what it's called) and play against each other.

We'd both agree on allowing each other to build up our bases first (30 mins or so), then it was fair game to attack

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AncelCor•

Same here. I'm horrible at them. Horrible. Yet, I've played them because in principle I like them.

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Loraash•

Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance I find lends itself well to the turtle tactic. One of the most difficult AI opponents actually does the same. (obligatory warning: Supreme Commander 2 is shit)

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huntingtiger1004•

I am about the reverse, but still just as terrible. When I play Planetary Annhilation, I quite enjoy it, however, I am aggressively defensive. I do not use any actual units, but mass produce construction units, and build towers hilariously fast towards my enemies. This backfires quite quickly, but it's funny as crap to me and I have no idea what else to do for strategies since I don't play RTS's too often.

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diegoplus•

Fighting games, I really love the Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat series but I really suck at them and get obliterated every time I play online. Can finish them in hard mode but with cheap exploits, mostly well timed jump kicks

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Scizzoman•

Absolutely the same for me. There are a lot of fighting series I enjoy and keep up with, but I've never actually been good at any of them. Every time a new one comes out I think "this is the one, this time I'll git gud," but the best I can usually manage is "just above mediocre."

I think the only series I was ever competent enough at to hold my own online was Soul Calibur.

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UpsetMuffins•

Hey im horrible at them too. But I really like the Injustice series.

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saintcrazytoo much Hearthstone•

Hey, same. I'm a shameless button masher. I also have a habit of falling off the ledges in SSB. You'd think I would learn how to up-B or just not walk off the edge, but it keeps happening.

So I really like the fighting games where spamming the A button works. Like Talim in Soul Calibur II.

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satsun_•

Fighting games require quite a bit of dedication, I used to play them quite a bit in the '90s when I had the time to remember moves and strategies, and the mechanics weren't so complicated. Now days, it takes much more dedication than just sitting down and shooting bad guys in the face.

I still buy fighting games because of nostalgia, but I'll never have the dedication to get good enough to beat the crap out of people online.

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KISS_THE_GIRLS•

same here, I always tell myself I'll dedicate myself to this game and get good, but end up sucking and quitting, and usually sticking to the arcade mode single player.

But I have my eyes on Injustice 2, MVC Ultimate, and Dragonball Fighter Z....

The only one of those 3 I can see myself removing from my list is MVC.

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saintcrazytoo much Hearthstone•

Literally any FPS, especially ones that emphasize reflexes/flick shots/rapid precision.

I wish I could play McCree or Widowmaker in Overwatch, I really do. Yes I know the enemy team has Pharah/Mercy and we really need a hitscan character to counter them. I just can't do it. Thankfully I really enjoy playing the tanks, supports, and less precision characters like Junkrat.

I really enjoy sniping and getting headshots against dumb AIs in singleplayer games, but in multiplayer when everyone is jumping around and hitting me faster than I can hit them... I just don't have the reflexes to be good at it.

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WiggyDiggyPoo•

Definitely lol Its multiplayer for me as I played various FPS online up until a few years ago then got bored having to learn the new maps, characters, guns, perks/skills/whatever every year or so as a new o came out. Playing older FPS is also a lesson in destruction as I've forgotten whatever I was good at in the first place.

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Serariron•

Probably Rogue-likes. I do hate difficult games nowadays due to my limited time, which is why I stay away from games like Dark Souls (even though I beat Demons Souls) but I love Rogue-likes/lites.

Currently I am playing Darkest Dungeon and Dead Cells and constantly get my ass kicked but it's a lot of fun.

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urchigoldOP•

Ah nice. I was addicted to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup for years, but I think finally burned out. Though just recently I played a bit and felt the addiction stir a bit...

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Loraash•

Same. But for some reason I stopped sucking in FTL after 5 game overs.

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tomkatt•

3D stealth games, and stealth titles in general. I love them as a concept, I love to play them, but I suck at them. I mean, I'm the J. Vacuum Hoover of stealth games. Stuff like Tenchu, Splinter Cell, Hitman (Absolution at least), Thief, and others. I count Deus Ex as well, since you're more a bullet tissue than sponge.

The only way I've been able to beat stealth games to any reasonable frequency is through save scumming. At this point I've played enough Splinter Cell Conviction and Blacklist to call myself "competent" but not "good," and I'm still bad at the pure stealth sections, like Grim's missions. I also still suck at Chaos Theory.

I slogged my way through Hitman Absolution. Enjoyed it, but I kind of suck. Tenchu is just... ugh. I want to love it, but I've yet to beat a single game in the series. Wrath of Heaven was a favorite of mine. Went back to Tenchu 2 in recent past and just could barely beat the first stage.

I'm not amazing at 2D stealth either, as Mark of the Ninja will attest, but I seem to have an easier time when it's all laid out on a single plane.

But even non-stealth games with stealth elements rankle me. I nearly rage quit Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 over the stealth sections (including a freaking stealth boss fight?!?). The part in... I think it's Zelda: Ocarina of Time where you sneak into the castle past the guard patrols... yeah, I even struggled with that in the past.

I seem to lack the patience required, as at some point I get tired of waiting and watching patrol paths and whatever in these games, and just want to act. And the fact that when I do wait, watch, be careful, I still get caught/killed/whatever simply reinforces the impatience. It's like a part of me thinks stealth can be brute forced to a correct result.

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MisterFlames•

Last month I really had a good feeling about finally playing through Deus Ex Human Revolution. It is that type of game I don't accept to play on anything but the highest difficulty. But stealth in that game is so hard to me. It is so frustrating, that I could barely complete the first mission without rage quitting. Too frustrating to keep playing; but for some reason, I always come back to that game to give it another try.

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tomkatt•

I played that one and Splinter Cell Blacklist similarly. Stealthy as possible, but lethal, and not really trying to avoid enemies, just take them down. If I got spotted I just bolted for cover and sorted it out.

I've seen the "perfect" or "ghost" runs where people just sneak by a lot of situations in those games, but it's just too difficult for me, and less interesting than engaging the enemies.


Funny story, one playthrough of DX:HR before I got bored with it I played like an asshole. That dude who's sneaking out medicine and the scientist who asks you get get him to stop... there's an option to stop some gangsters and he'll quit, but I just ended up talking to him, shooting him in the face, then going back and turning in the quest. The other scientist was glad the issue was resolved, but absolutely appalled by my actions.

Other playthroughs I just had fun with the strength mod, tossing dumpsters on the gang bangers.

Edit - okay, now I kind of want to play DX:HR again.

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MisterFlames•

Yeah, being able to do shit like that is why I love Deus Ex. I really need to play through them, even if only on lower difficulty levels. For some reason, the only Deus Ex I have completed yet, is the shitty second one.

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tomkatt•

I completed the original game twice back in the day, but on the PS2. I picked up a Steam Controller and have been playing the PC version from my couch for the first time recently. It's glorious with updated texture mods and at 2160p.

I tried Invisible War but wasn't a fan. And despite putting 30 hours into DX:HR on my first playthrough, I've never finished it. I always got off track with side missions and stuff, forgot what I was doing, and then just kind of fell off the plot. After 30 hours of off and on play and not really remembering what or why I was doing, I just quit.

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BatteredWalrus•

Is tenchu still a thing? I remember playing it on the original play station

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tomkatt•

There was Tenchu Z for the XBox 360. Dunno if there's been anything else.

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fartloud•

I nearly rage quit Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 over the stealth sections (including a freaking stealth boss fight?!?).

I love stealth games, but i actually quit the game before even seeing the stealth boss. The stealth was done really poorly.

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randylaxatives•

RTS games. I loved Starcraft 2 and I love competitive gameplay but since I'm not good at this genre I couldn't keep losing online. Single player was the only way for me to play.

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UnclaimedUsername•

RTS for me too. Couldn't even get through the single player of Starcraft without cheating.

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action_lawyer_comics•

Ditto, except it was Warcraft 2 in my case. I prefer the building and tech trees development than the actual fighting.

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UnclaimedUsername•

Yeah same with me. I never wanted to go into battle until my guys were fully upgraded. Not an optimal strategy.

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Thrall_So_Hard•

It doesn't help that to remain competitive you have to immerse yourself in the meta, spend hours a day researching, practicing build orders, timing pushes, and knowing all of that for the other races you don't main.

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stalphonzo•

All of them really. I suck at most games but enjoy them anyway.

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camguide2FF Tactics Advance, Killing Floor 2, Origin games•

I like fighting games, but when it comes to learning fighting games similar to Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter with all the different combos and moves.. I give up very quickly. This is mostly because of the learning curve, but also because of their repetitiveness and me not wanting to spend time getting good at a competitive fighting game when I already have other (competitive) games to play that I find to be more enjoyable.

I prefer fighting games where moves are easy to remember or learn but hard to use to their full potential and games where I really feel like I'm in control. This is why SSBM is my all-time favorite fighting game.

I've only played the following fighting games (skimmed through this):

  • Karateka
  • Yie Ar Kung-Fu
  • Street Fighter I, II, IV and famiclone versions
  • Soul Calibur 2
  • Mortal Kombat I, II, III
  • Tekken 3
  • Naruto: Clash of Ninja 1 / 2
  • Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 - Full Burst
  • SSB, SSBM, SSBB, PM
  • Street Fighter X Tekken
  • Little Fighter 2
  • Megabyte Punch

And tested a few others, but yeah. I feel like I'm terrible in some fighting games because I tend to play other kinds of games more and stay competitive in those instead.

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thinkforaminuteHand of Fate•

Are you talking about Karateka and Yie Ar Kung Fu on the Commodore 64? I used to play those, then go to the arcade and play Karate Champ.

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camguide2FF Tactics Advance, Killing Floor 2, Origin games•

I played both of them on the NES.

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satsun_•

Horror / scary games, it's not that I suck at them, I actually end up having more than enough resources to survive, but I love the environments and playing with a loud surround sound setup but I end up taking them too seriously, which results me in becoming too scared to play.

Often times, I get to a point in a game that is very scary, I stop and don't return. The Evil Within has been a long journey, Resident Evil 7 is sitting there, I get too scared in the basement to finish the demo and get the dirty coin for the full game that I own, I'm in The Curie in SOMA and have difficulty getting past those lit-head guys, I only got through Amnesia because I read a guide that tells me exactly when the monsters appear and told me where to hide; I really wish I wore a heart rate monitor when I was playing the Amnesia Justine DLC because I had to be at 170 bpm when I was trying to crank that door open while that monster was breathing down my neck.

This used to not be a problem when I was younger, it was all fun and games back then, I probably just need to get out of the house.

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MisterFlames•

I'm with you, man. I only play horror games when it's dark and with headphones at high volume. The last horror game I was able to complete was Layers of Fear, because it doesn't really include combat. Still scary as sh!t. As soon as they include more gameplay, like in RE7 or Amnesia, I start up the game and completely freeze in my tracks as soon as it gets scary.

For some reason, I didn't have that problem when I was younger. I have played through all the Penumbra games and Dead Space 1 on the highest difficulty without problems. Nobody told me, that I become a scared chicken when I get old.

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FoN925•

Wow, and here I thought I was strange because I get more afraid as I get older.

I just wrote a post about Alien: Isolation in another thread where I told someone that, as a teenager, I played Silent Hill 2 alone, in the dark, on a stormy night no problem. But the only was I got through Outlast was to have a walkthrough pulled up at all times, telling me when a bad guy would come after me, where to run and hide, etc.

Increasing fear with age must be pretty common. Glad to know I'm not the only one.

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MisterFlames•

There is a chance, that horror games today are just more scary in general. But I don't think so, because it's the same with horror movies for me.

When I was younger, horror games and movies had a way bigger appeal to me. Exposure decreased that over the years, resulting in me barely touching any horror game anymore. Maybe the lack of exposure today is the reason for me to get really scared again. But I really don't know.

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alleycw•

4X Games and CRPGs. I want to love them both so much, but I'm awful at both!

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RVallantDeadly Premonition•

Grand Strategy games.

I can do tactical stuff, sure. But GS games I tend to stagnate and do sod all, leading to getting steam-rolled at some point. Or, if I do win, I honestly have no idea why. I clicked a button and it did stuff and we sorta worked out so yeah. >.<

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Loraash•

I never heard of this term. Could you give a few examples please?

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RVallantDeadly Premonition•

Grand Strategy?

Paradox do a few of them:

  • Hearts of Iron (4)
  • Victoria (2)
  • Europa Universalis (4)
  • Stellaris

Romance of the Three Kingdoms series, or Nobunaga's Ambition series are other examples, from Eastern developers.

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gerstiii•

Although I love motorsports, racing games don't suit me. Okay I finished some "casual" racers like burnout, NFS etc. but Project Cars is literaly killing me. I can't get my self into those Set up stuff or learning the tracks

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urchigoldOP•

I can't stand the AI in racing games, how you can leave them in the dust but the second you crash you're in last place

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gerstiii•

Yeah I know, atleast there're some that allow you to turn of the rubberband

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ninefeet•

Which ones?

I haven't touched realistic racers in a long time so I'm curious about which ones you'd recommend that allow that.

I'd kill for sports games to give you the option of turning off rubberbanding, too.

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gerstiii•

Take a look a Project Cars. I'm rly digging this game for some months now.

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halcyonjunkyard•

For me it's rhythm games and turn based strategy games. My reaction times are trash so I'm shit at things like Guitar Hero but I still enjoy them, and turn based games are good even though I'm always dead near the start unless I play on the easiest possible difficulty.

(the weird thing is that I'm actually pretty okay at RTS games but for some reason I'm awful at turn based ones...)

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theangriestbird•

Bro! Just pick the characters you think are coolest and roll with them until the game says no!

I learned that lesson young with FF7. Cloud/Barret/Vincent all day 😎

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action_lawyer_comics•

Probably the game I'm currently playing, ** Rain World.** There's days where I play for 2-3 hours and all I do is fall do my death, get eaten, or try and fail to find food and shelter before the rains come. But I'm ready to sit down and try again the next day.

Also RTSes. I'm not really interested in fighting, but I do find it rewarding to start from three huts and a couple sheep and make a massive settlement. But I don't like it when the enemy attacks while I'm building.

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Detention13•

SHMUPs.

I LOVE the Gradius series and various bullet-hells (among others of course), but feel wholly inadequate while playing them. Gradius might actually be my favorite SHMUP series because getting to the end is within reach even without memorizing ludicrously intricate bullet patterns.

That said, I also have a soft spot for the Shikigami No Shiro AKA Mobile Light Force series which is a punishing bullet-hell, but the mechanics are so fun that I'm OK with not being that best at it. Games like Mushihimesama though... good GOD. What's the point? I'm never going to get good at it, and even if I do I'll never feel like I'm actually "good" because watching people who can 1-credit these games washes away any delusion that your skills are impressive. lol

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GiganticDoucher•

Everything but RPGs. Party/inventory micro-managing is my shit. Combat with pause is also my shit.

Action? Strategy? Shooting? Driving? Hack n slash? Anything with fucking parrying? Lemme just set the difficulty to easy if i cant do anything on normal...

It sucks because the game i play most is overwatch and i suck at it.

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nerfpirate•

Turn based grand strategy. I love building huge societies that follow my will but I just don't really know all of the ins and outs and it's just too big of a commitment for me to spend all of the time to learn it.

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