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Future of Mage Meta?

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With many of us having invested so much time and mythril into building Mage teams, plus now seeing Cloud USB around the corner, I was wondering if any Global or Japan players can post their opinions about the future of Mage Meta.

Personally, I run: Yshtola (alternating Wall and Asylum) OK (using BSB and finishing with OSB) Faris (only have her SB and BSB sadly) Raines (BSB) Maria/Edea/Hope/Quistis/Papa (BSB, depending on which element I need)

Do Mage teams stay strong or do they quickly get replaced by physical teams?

Thanks for your input. Sorry if this has already been discussed.

Edit: I should add that I have been able to clear all content except the early Proudclad event (got Proudclad but couldn't clear the D220 MP boss). Have not done Torments yet.

Posted Jun 26, 2017, 5:34 PM UTC

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thatrpgmakerfreak...Guns and women of course•

Sit down, son. I'ma give ya the best advice a father can give a son.

Don't get sucked into metas. Play how you want to play and if you can't win, adjust as needed.

Seriously, though. All battles are different and everyone has different equipment all around. Read through the boss and see if you need adjustments.

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DempseyRoll108Cecil (Paladin)•

Best part about running metas: Getting to say meta before every single strategy.

Second best part: Arguing over what a meta actually means.

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Ha_eflolliCures Black, White, and Echo•

Best part about running metas: Getting to say meta before every single strategy.

I'll be honest, while you have a point, it just annoys me how eventually, every legitimate Question for Strategies will devolve with a majority of People saying "use (insert OP thing here) lol" instead of providing alternatives.

I get that it's often the simplest Solution, but what about those who don't want/can't use it? (speaking generally here)

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ZMemberOP•

I actually don't bust out my mage team until the highest difficulty bosses. I try to use other solutions for bosses under D220. But it's very nice to have a "go-to" team for those of us who are at very busy times in life.

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Ha_eflolliCures Black, White, and Echo•

I can imagine. I mean, there's nothing wrong with not fixing what isn't broken (oh the irony...) I just... I dunno. The monotonity of it just rubs me the wrong way I guess.

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eliterecordkeeper•

They are both good dude imo I play JP both are amazing only thing you need to invest in us dual cast LMs and quick cast party buffs which should come with next IV tourment with bard motes my Mage teams in JP can pump out 500-600k dmg in 25-30seconds game time so you'll be fine

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ZMemberOP•

Can you give me details on who you like to use? Thx very much for your comment!

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eliterecordkeeper•

Depends on the boss and weakness but Mage wise i tend to have raines OK and Edward as my staples in building the team

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ZMemberOP•

Which Edward relics are you using? I just pulled his BSB but haven't used it yet!

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eliterecordkeeper•

His ssb for mages 30% mind/mag quick magical cast 3 and his bsb for holy phys team

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AvdblueCeles•

You should easily rip up torments, I did it with less magic bsb, no onion and had to rw wall. Honestly with your set up I think you're fine except maybe magicites where it looks like you need elemental teams, and even then I'm sure you have some coverage elemental wise.

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fishdrinking2•

In a little more than a year I played, it alternates between physical and magic every 8 month or so. Personally I like the variety of boostaga options in mage meta more than always using shout.

I look at Cloud meta/Magicite as we get closer to use more characters as the DPS to target weakness on one hand, and depends on stacking boosts even more and locked for those 2 spots on the other.

Base on JP newer mage relics, I think it will swing back again, and good news is all our mage buffs are still good, no 50% ones yet...

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ZMemberOP•

Thank you this is good to know!

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SkyfireX•

Do Mage teams stay strong or do they quickly get replaced by physical teams?

I use mages a lot more in JP than Physical actually.

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Zurai001Blame yourself or God.•

This. Though Marche may change things against boss that don't resist holy (he's a lot less attractive when he can't spam 32k-64k of Guardbringer damage each turn).

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Jack-umsCloud USB: YjcF•

I just don't run an A team. Ever. Every boss is gonna be a little bit different.

Could my holy imperil team with Agrias, TGC, and Raines pretty much shred anything at this point? Yup. Is it boring as hell to play that way? Yup.

Do you. Mix it up. Bring Ingus just because. Build a team around a resisted element just so you can imperil stack it up to (minor) weakness and master it anyway (did this for IX JS A+, btw). Just have fun with the game. Otherwise what's the point?

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ZMemberOP•

I understand if you don't prefer to use an "A team" but I sometimes choose to. Yes I like to mix it up as well :)

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NegimaSonicOnion Knight- bPTB (Shouting no longer)•

I don't play JP nor am I the most up to date in the meta, but with the assumption magicite is the next big thing, mages seem just fine as long as you can focus elements.

Juniglee's Sealion magicite (fire focus). There are several more here, but some of this stuff uses magicite themselves though therefore can't 100% be replicated on all your first attempts.

SkyfireX has several in one thread.. Notably Earth for Hydra, another wind clear for golem

ElNinoFr's Golem being done by Ninjas or more traditional with f2p_key's Terra as mage

Cloud USB will probably run over most regular content, but that's a choice for you to use it or not. I probably will if I can get it running but I like knowing my mages can still be good as well.

EDIT: Mages probably won't be outright breaking the game with things like 10 second 100 man clears, but you got things like triple/quadcast witch skills or suicide trancers (Terra, Vincent, Vivi to an extent I suppose). You can see a bit of this in the Terra golem clear.

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ZMemberOP•

Great information here. I'll use this post as reference for the future.

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hatsunemilku•

first, i dont know that much about jp just general things since i dont want to spoil that much of the game (jsut which banners are decent and the changes in the game overall) so take this as a grain of salt:

  • based on information, raines meta (lets face it, the bsb is that op) will still be solid except for magicites only behind cloud meta because cloud usb
  • omniresist bosses will be a thing (it is even starting now) so you should start thinking about making a non-ele team
  • some LM/BSB combinations will be broken (looking at you again raines)
  • setzer ascends to become the true god of debuffing (currently he is only the king)
  • rikku becomes the new OK BSB
  • and what right now is happening, imperil stacked is way more useful with our current bosses having only slight weakness
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Zurai001Blame yourself or God.•

My primary team in JP is still a healer, three mages, and a support. I own Cloud USB but not Zack CSB to go with it, and I've found that my mage team is just a much smoother clear of almost every fight.

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