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GoLevels

Charge TM on Alakazam?

Don't get the chance to play much so only picked up one charge TM from about 5 raids and wondering if it's worth using on Alakazam?

It's 80% IV 13/8/15 with pyscho cut and shadow ball. My only other good Machamp counters are c/fs Espeon and es/sb Exeggutor

Haven't got a decent Machamp or D'nite/T'tar to use the charge TM on yet and my only other option is maybe Gengar to change sludge bomb to shadow ball. Or I could wait?

Edit: i should add it's lvl 24 and 1932 cp so can power up to 30+

Edit 2 (update): got another charge TM from an Exeggutor raid so i used it on Alakazam, got future sight. Gonna try it out against the next Machamp raid which I think I should be able to solo now

Posted Jul 11, 2017, 9:12 AM UTC · edited

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ExabytezUlm, DE|BZZT|37(72%)•

Personally, I wouldn't use a TM on a Pokémon under 90% IVs (except for my mediocre Red Gyarados). If you don't think you can aquire another (good) Alakazam in the near future, you could go for it. But then again there are Alakazam raids you can solo or at least beat with one partner pretty safely. There you could get better Alakazam.

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GoLevelsOP•

Thanks, I usually play solo and don't get much chance to try raids. But i'll try to hold fire and wait for an Alakazam raid, seems they're pretty tough to solo tho. I'm only level 32.

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ExabytezUlm, DE|BZZT|37(72%)•

If you got a few Tyranitar and Genger around level 30ish you can do it :) Also maybe a second person shows up while you wait (have yet to do Alakazam Raids because Machamp are higher priority atm so I don't know how many people show up there).

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GoLevelsOP•

I have a single Larvitar and about 100-150 candies short of a decent T'tar. Gengar on the other hand I do have a couple of so may give it a try, alongside my two 'poor' moveset maxed-out Gyarados' (B/C) I may have a chance. Like you said tho Machamp is priority atm which is why I was considering using the charge TM on Alakazam. I have 3 Machamp all with awful steel moves!

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0aman0•

What's the level of your Psychic Attackers?

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chris_louSF•

lol "only 32"

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ottokahnTexas Ranger•

Alakazam is not that easy with just two people, much less solo, unless you have very specific, high level Pokemon.

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ExabytezUlm, DE|BZZT|37(72%)•

Well most higher level raids depend on Pokémon species, level and number of participants. Maybe my comment sounded like "Alakazam is a piece of cake, just throw in your Dragonite and you'll be fine" which is not what I meant, but if you got 3-4 Pokémon around 30ish that cover Kazam's weakness and you are doing the raid with a friend who has a similar lineup, Alakazam can be beaten.

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ottokahnTexas Ranger•

It can be done, but it is one of the harder of the Tier 3, from what I understand. But yeah, just takes the right Pokemon with the right moves and preferably an Alakazam without Focus Blast!

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compoundbreak791LVL 33 - Cleveland, OH•

I've wasted 2 TMs already trying to get a psychic charge move for Alakazam.

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Str8Lurk1nLvL 34 Upstate NY•

I used 7 charge moves to get future sight. And to be fair I didn't actually use the 7th. My luck was so bad I made someone else click the button and boom.... future sight

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WallofbonesSp, Brazil | Instinct - Lvl 37•

Ouch... GL next time. I've been quite lucky with changing moves. On the other hand, bad luck catching raid pokemons and getting TMs.

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GoLevelsOP•

These stories do not fill me with the confidence to pull the trigger!

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WallofbonesSp, Brazil | Instinct - Lvl 37•

Honestly I wouldn't invest a TM on an 80% Alakazam. Try investing in pokemons above 90% if you really want a long lasting team of awesome pokemons. You will eventually discard that 80% once you get something better in the future.

Personal experience: I almost ended up investing TONs of dust on a 89% Machamp with best fighting moves. Ended up changing my mind and waiting a little longer. Did a Machamp raid last weekend and managed to get a 98% Machamp with best moves... Turns out I waited and ended up investing dust on that 98% rather than the only 89% I had up to that point.

GL

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GoLevelsOP•

Yeh I do rush in to things a little too quick at times. Evolved a 71% dratini just to get the dragonair which was my last gen 1 dex entry. now have a 91% dratini and 121 candies, could really do with those extra 25 i wasted

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WallofbonesSp, Brazil | Instinct - Lvl 37•

Yeah. It's always best to wait for something better. It's bound to eventually happen, just gotta be patient.

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FabsCItaly - Team Shuckle!•

Gengar with sludge bomb is excellent against machamp.

Dont waste your only charged TM on an alakazam, more so with fc as a quick move :D

You are better off trying to get another 1 or 2 espeon if eevee is common enough in your area or just train up a new alakazam if abra is common in your area.

A team with 3 espeons/zams and 3 gengar will deal with machamp easly

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GoLevelsOP•

Mine did deal some significant damage during the only Machamp raid I've done. Couldn't quite solo it though, kept timing out with only a few % health left until a level 26 joined. I feel one level 30 psychic addition to my roster would've done it

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Carnilawl•

One thing to consider is that legendaries may change Allakhazam's prioritization as an attacker. Currently he's tier 1/1.5, but perhaps after psychic legendaries are released he's tier 1.5/2. Just something to consider - because of this I've decided to wait a bit longer before I work on my psychic team, especially because it sounds like legendaries might be coming this month.

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GoLevelsOP•

True and it is worth keeping in mind. I tend to play for now or immediate/confirmed changes tho and adapt as I go. For now I need more a better Machamps so i can take on T'tar which i still don't have. After the rock event i've got solid Rhydons and Golems out the wazoo so should be ok for legendaries (with the exception of wanting to add at least one T'tar to my roster!)

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0aman0•

Try your luck with more Espeons and Exeggutors, coz it is not confirmed the TM-ing your Alakazam will give you Future Sight, he can also get Focus Blast which will be a decent counter for Snorlax and Blissey, but not for Machamp.

Espeon is the quickest way to get a Powerful Psychic w/ Guaranteed Psy/Psy moveset. How many eevee do you see daily?

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GoLevelsOP•

You're completely right although I got a 2nd charge TM yesterday so used it anyway and did get future sight! Fair amount of Eevee, used to be loads before gen 2 and I have an army of gen 1 evolutions but only one Espeon. It is maxed out with future sight so decent although I do need another i haven't the heart to walk anything other than Dratini until I get Dragonite.

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0aman0•

Congratulations, I have a Level 30 2397CP Psycho Cut/Psychic Zam, I got a charged TM today but I'm not using on him coz he does fine with that moveset. Alakazam is my favourite mon and I want each Zam with different moveset, I have a Level 31.5 2502CP Psycho Cut/Shadow Ball, not even using on him. Similar case with the Dratini, although I switched it with eevee to prepare for espeon evolution.

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