You’ll miss fired Panthers general manager Dave Gettleman more than you think
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charlotteobserver.comPosted Jul 19, 2017, 11:11 PM UTC
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charlotteobserver.comI don't think so. I already know I'll miss him a lot.
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I miss his accent already.
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I really didn't like how we fired him and when we fired him, but man I just wasn't on the Gettlemagic bus anymore. I figured another bad season and he deserved to be on the hot seat.
But some of the draft picks that we initially lauded as sleeper picks turned out to be busts, mistakes were made in letting go of certain players and his teams were starting to resemble the one attribute I couldn't stand about Hurney's squads. Squads that showed no consistency. Some of this falls on Rivera for sure, but I also feel like he's nearing the hot seat.
So while Gettleman may have graded out as the "best GM in our history", I wasn't as sold on the guy who won the gold medal in what amounts to a three man race.
But once again, it was a mistake to fire him like we did and when we did.
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Thanks for some sanity. I get that we're mourning a good GM, but damn if it doesn't feel like some people in this sub just love to be pessimists.
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That's all I know!
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people in this sub just love to be pessimists.
being a sports fan will do that to you lol...i like that there is some good honest/adult discussion on this. sometimes this sub is so overwhelmingly positive that any negative thoughts about team are immediately downvoted and it makes me feel like we are in preschool
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I've started feeling the opposite way recently, maybe not so much about this sub in particular but it seems like it's cool to be cynical now. I'm on the wholesome memes train and all that, trying to just be more positive in general.
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Interesting...I admittedly don't post or visit much so I could be way off. Just always seemed like if you weren't posting positive stuff about Cam and the team it was met with downvotes/venom. Could be confirmation bias though on like 2 or 3 posts I have seen. Appreciate the positivity. Wholesome memes are great
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I disagree but I appreciate you having your own opinion and not just an emotional response.
Gettleman was a big picture guy. No decisions were made in a vacuum, and he strongly adhered to a few basic philosophies: having his "hog mollies" on the offensive and defensive lines, drafting BPA (albeit to a lesser degree in 2016), a commitment to the ground game, and not prioritizing any one player ahead of the team.
It's tempting to say his drafts were busts because KK and Trai Turner are the only all-pro caliber players he drafted. I'd argue he got a lot of productive role players on cheap rookie contracts. Even some of the guys no longer on the team (Klein, Ealy, Boston, Bene) were solid contributors. I think people overestimate other teams' hit rate in the draft.
My suspicion is JR believes he'll make more money by retaining the team's star players. NFL fans, even of bad teams, spend money on jerseys and other merchandise with the names and numbers of their favorite players. Belichick routinely lets star players walk in New England, but that's easily forgiven by the fanbase because he wins Super Bowls. I believe Gettleman has set us up for sustained success, but he won't get enough credit in the end.
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He makes the tough calls no one has the balls to make, he has vision to make those decisions, but has done them in the worst ways. His cut throat attitude was his blessing and his curse. This is the beginning of a lot of shit we're about to go through, and the fact we brought Hurney in as interim GM is proof of that. JR has lost his fucking mind.
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What bothers me about Olsen is... you signed a contract. You adhere to that contract. You were performing just as well before and have maintained it yes, but you agreed to X contract. I know in hockey you don't see the kind of silly threats about a hold out or this and that ON A CONTRACT ALREADY SIGNED. I'm also highly disappointed in the lack of class by some of the, current, and former Panthers. Keep your cards close to your chest you don't need to broadcast everything to the world. Like it or not this is a business. It's no different than being fired or replaced at a job.
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Yep, 2 years left on his contract, why the fuck would we give an extension at this point? Next year, for sure...right now, no way.
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On one hand, if you outplay your contract you're entitled to ask for a raise. On the other hand, the team isn't obligated to give it to you.
It is natural to want more if you feel you deserve it, but I hate all the drama that goes with negotiations. I would like to think that Olsen and TD aren't the kind of guys that would sit out of training camp to protest their contract situations. I gotta believe Gettleman would have worked something out before long.
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In hockey you cannot hold out without massive repercussions like basically blackballing yourself from the league, due to how the CBA is structured. So that's irrelevant.
In the NFL players can be cut at any time for any reason. So the team isn't exactly adhering to the contract at all times, either.
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I'm a huge Canes fan, and was just thinking about this the other day. Hockey and football are completely different beasts. You really don't see a lot of that in hockey. However, you do see a lot of the European players be open and blunt when they think the team is not performing.
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Knew it was a Sorensen article before I opened it.
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Do you not like him?
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Not op, but they probably guessed Tom because he is the observer's resident contrarian.
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This 100%.
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Why would you miss the guy you hired to replace the shit GM when the shit GM is back?
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God I hope not. Because I already miss him a lot
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He needed those extra baggy shorts because his pockets were filled with magic.
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99% of the fan base..and 100% of the logical ones..already know this
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oh no, we suck again
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I'll miss him less. And that article offers little argument as to why I'll miss him, aside from the lazy and misleading "salary cap!" take.
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I never thought I'd live to see so many comma's in a single article. Jesus. That hurt to read.
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Ignoring the point of the article about how firing Gettleman was a mistake and opinions on the subject, can we talk about how poorly written this is. It provides no real insight. Even if the sentiment is correct this reads like some one defending their buddy. It's overwrought and super cheesy (and has plenty of errors).
It sounds like Gettleman fanfic:
I can envision Gettleman in his very cool Charlotte home or his office at Bank of America Stadium. It’s 3 a.m., and everything is dark but the screen on his TV. He uses the light to make notes about the player he’s studying, hits rewind and watches the video again.
Very cool Charlotte home? Lol. It's full of meaningless praise:
There was no ego. There was confidence. There was a football guy.
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Gettleman is honest and effective, a grinder and a good man.
His writing style sounds like a High School freshman:
What did they do wrong? They want to be paid. We’re like that, we humans.
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Being a Husker and a Panther fan, this has been a very tough couple weeks. Siiiiigh
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I mean...Yes and No? Depends on if they keep Hurney or find someone else to lead the team.
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Gettleman is just going to do another team so much good. Loved the guy. He knew football.
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Nope.
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Trust me, we know. We already miss him
I've just been heartbroken the past week. I'm doing my best to keep it together, for him; living my life, enjoying the world, going to work, earning my pay - you know, holding it together.
It's what he would of wanted.
Or he would have wanted me cut.
This is awful, it's would have
would've*
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