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LordeTech

C17 Hype Levels

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Hello everyone. Here's a quick meme I made to reflect the current state of spoiler season https://imgur.com/Xx7YjPY

Honestly, this is one of the most disappointing commander sets at the moment, having revealed absolutely no cards that feel like they'll have any sort of substantial presence in cEDH. It's a bit of a shame really. I love brewing. I love this format, but I absolutely abhor these cards because of how hideously shoehorned they are into small boxes.

I'm sure people think something is decent but I just don't see it after Thrasios-gate.

Feel free to discuss this year's spoiler seasons. I'm just here to provide your quality content.

Posted Aug 10, 2017, 1:20 AM UTC

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Carvuscus•

We still have the best group tomorrow. Wizard tribal, so good blue card maybe?

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Gates_88Ninja•

No C-11? Damia, Riku, Mimeoplasm, Kaalia, Karador, and Ghave were all very strong at the time and Animar is relevant to this day.

But yes, niceme.me

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LordeTechOPSad •

Commander wasn't nearly that large of a format back then. It exploded with C13.

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Slevinclivara•

C13 def pulled me out of my near decade edh hiatus.

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Jaeyx•

I think they look great so far. very fun. Nothing looks particularly CEDH playa me, but that's to be expected. Precons are meant to be weaker than most casual decks even. Particularly tribal precons. I got no complaints really.

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The2odiakStorm•

I mean we should've expected this when they announced it was gonna be tribal. Not many (if any) tribes are competitive. At least, true tribe decks aren't. [[Tazri]] doesn't count

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LordHuntington•

[[Azami]] is competitive and sorta tribal

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The2odiakStorm•

Meh. She's probably the most tribal out of all the cEDH decks. Is elves even competitive? I haven't seen any true elf tribes in a cEDH deck

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YoshiCline•

In my experience as a casual player who loves watching you guys discuss, elves sit at the top of casual and "75%" metas, but require a god hand for themselves and shit hands for their opponents in a cEDH meta.

Edit: the reason for this, in my opinion, is the lack of wins outside of combat damage and the occasional upkeep win of [[Helix Pinnacle]].

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The2odiakStorm•

Yeah that's what I was thinking. I'm personally a 75% player (only because I'm a Johnny at heart), but I love the thought process that goes into cEDH

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petr23g4•

What is the best way to combat elves in Mardu? There's two big green decks in my meta that stomp everyone

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serrasin•

Elves win with Staff of Domination and Hurricane easily enough, and can land it really quickly.

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THEnimble_mongoose•

Loads of good tribal elves and seton druidball decks out there.

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The2odiakStorm•

But no super competitive ones

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Laraythius•

Speaking of elves, does the new green X spell fit into elfball? I feel like it might...

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The2odiakStorm•

I didn't see that one. What is it?

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MTGCardFetcher•

Azami - (G) (SF) (MC) (ER)
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MTGCardFetcher•

Tazri - (G) (SF) (MC) (ER)
^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call ^^^- ^^^Updated ^^^images

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AlarmednineBoros Sultai•

Technically, she does.

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Scott-Spain•

There are a few cards that interest me.

Curse of Bounty looks good for Yisan and Selvala.

Alms Collector is an interesting Hatebear.

1v1 EDH got more interesting, at least.

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IzzyJM•

I like the idea of Curse of Bounty for Yisan, but couldn't the fringe cases of opponents utilizing the untap effect potentially hurt more than the gain you'd net off of it? With the meta shift leaning to green thanks to hulk, we're seeing a lot more mana dorks on the field now.

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Scott-Spain•

True, but I wouldn't go for it in multiplayer unless I'm certain I can combo into a "finish" of some sort, like looping Beast Within or something like that.

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testype01•

My take is that these sets are not for cEDH, but for the casual players. We should not expect that many cards that are playable anyway. If the standard is Thrasios, then most cards in Magic history fall short.

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-M-M-M-•

Doesn't Inalla has potentional? She goes infinity with basically any wizard

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0neBarWarrior•

Not really, most of the combos I've seen mentioned are so convoluted and cost so much mana compared to a standard grixis reanimator package. There doesn't seem to be any reason to shoehorn useless wizards into a deck when I could just buried alive into a kiki combo; and that's not even top 10 competitive.

The only combo that might be remotely useful is mistbind clique for land lock, which is great... if cedh actually used lands instead dorks and rocks.

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thedoctor5445•

The ashnod's altar + new vampire/wizard reanimator combo isn't too convoluted, and it is much more resilient against creature removal than twin. It's probably not enough to be competitive but maybe something could happen.

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0neBarWarrior•

"Probably not competitive"

I was under the impression this was the competitive edh subreddit, no?

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thedoctor5445•

I'm saying its probably not competitive, but there is a possibility that it is competitive.

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MarstheSoosRazakeths' Vizier•

good shit my man

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Enderkr•

Couldn't agree more.

They've shown some fun cards for kitchen table. Some of them will be fun to build for Saturday night beers with friends. But so far I haven't seen a single card I can even test in a competitive deck. -sigh-

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vraGG_Sedris, the Traitor King•

Yeah... it's pretty sad.

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TheBlakkatJeleva Storm•

Kess is no thrasios but all of a sudden I'm hype again.

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LordeTechOPSad •

See, that's where you're wrong. They're not gonna do that and we already know 2 of the 5 shard based legends are tribal.

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